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re: Thought on back pain treatment.

Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by Tigressa del Norte
Seattle
Member since Jan 2009
3073 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:39 pm to
Had a sudden case of sciatica shooting down and cramping my left leg after a night of PS4 Mortal Kombat while sitting on a hard office chair. Freaked me out as I had no idea what was wrong. MRI showed L3-L4 are screwed up. Went to PT and lucked out with a very knowledgeable older man who told me about the (Robin) McKenzie method or extension stretch exercise, similar to a Yoga pose. You can find his books on Amazon which cover the back, neck, and hips.

There's a video of it further down on this link. It's amazing how effective it is. You can't over-arch your back according to the PT/book. I was initially told to do it every 2 hours per day. Over the last couple years, when I've skipped and muscle cramping/sciatica creep back, it can be reversed if you get back into the exercise. The PT also emphasized you have to maintain good posture or it'll interfere with the exercise progress. It's a very good means to avoid surgery for some back injuries. Best of luck!


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Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53257 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:42 pm to
It sounds like you have fibromyalgia baw. Let me text my cousin and see if he can refer you to a pain management specialist
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
20017 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:53 pm to
I had a physical job and my back was hurting a good deal as well as my right hip and leg. When I retired I took it easy for a couple of weeks and it eased up until I push mowed the lawn. My right hip lit up the next day and I was at square one again.

I went to the hip doctor and my hip was bone on bone and I wound up with a hip replacement. I figured that was what was causing my back problems. But during my recovery and walking my left hip started wearing me out with pain.

Come to find out I had a herniated disc in my back pressing on the sciatic nerve going down that side. I’ve always said I’d never let anyone cut on my spine, but I reached the point to where I had no choice. I slept in a chair, not recliner, just so I could get up to pee in the night or get up at all.

I had surgery to repair it and the pain is gone now and after several months of not sleeping in a bed it was great to lay down and sleep.


I’m sorry for your pain and hope you find the solution. Look for second and third opinions if necessary. The only way to understand this is to live it.

I had heard about regenerative therapy but I was past that.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19736 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:57 pm to
Deadlifts relieved back pain.


Deadlifts and rigorous cupping/scraping massage sessions
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6562 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 12:11 am to
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Deadlifts and rigorous cupping/scraping massage sessions


Deadlifts make me happy, scraping makes me sweat uncontrollably.

Posted by CutTheCord
Texas
Member since Aug 2022
741 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:31 am to
I have an issue with T4 and T5 in my back. Degenerative issues.

Acupuncture helped. It was so bad and nothing else was working. All they would do is offer more pain pills.

It took three treatments and my back and neck were pain free. It lasted about six or so months until I had to go back again.

That's all I got. I hope you get some help.
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
5203 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 3:01 am to
Stretching helps. Man, this board has gotten so geriatric.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3415 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 9:07 am to
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Man, this board has gotten so geriatric.


The target ads for old people shite is just devastating, but I don’t think younger people use message boards except for Reddit.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3135 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 9:40 am to
90% of the patients I’ve seen come through for back surgery are 300 plus pounds. People don’t eat right, exercise, or use proper mechanics when doing physical labor. There are outliers, but pretty much any type of surgery I’m a part of is on an obese patient.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3337 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 9:56 am to
If you don't have any structural issues, work on your core. Your core is what supports the load on your back.

Now, as someone who has had back surgery, if you have a structural problem, get the surgery. Do not frick around with pain management.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9960 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:05 am to
Best things for back pain:
(1) move everyday (even if just walking)
(2) strengthen your core and hip flexors
(3) lose weight/clean up the diet
(4) regular mobility work (hips/back/shoulders)
(5) drink more water
(6) get more sleep
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 10:07 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16600 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:09 am to
Not familiar with Regenerative Therapy. Had a herniated disc and thought I was on my way to surgery.

A football coach (KHS) suggested I visit Dr. Doug Goehry in Katy off FM1463. Guy's a whiz kid. Just some simple stretches that were tailored for my problem.

I realize not all back issues are the same so not intended to imply this would work for you. It's a conservative approach so thought I'd mention.

Pray you get some relief.
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3940 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 12:00 pm to
Wife had to have two 360 Lombard fusions…was addicted to pain pills…after second surgery she started taking it easy and watched the chair she used at work, walked consistently and now she is pain free, no longer on pills etc…
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3712 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:27 pm to
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You sound similar to my dad. He’s been addicted to opioids about 7 years at this point.

I was oxycodone for three months pre-back surgery and another month after.

Yes, after four months I was 100% hooked and really noticed it when I first got up in the morning after being without a pill for around 10 hrs and of coarse instantly better after taking my morning pill.

Not lying I was hooked.

So I bought a pill cutter. Best investment EVER. I would take tiny slices off of each pill like every other day until the pills were tiny slivers.

Took about three weeks to wean myself off doing the pill cutting method but doing it very slowly it was pretty painless.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53257 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:39 pm to
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So I bought a pill cutter. Best investment EVER. I would take tiny slices off of each pill like every other day until the pills were tiny slivers. Took about three weeks to wean myself off doing the pill cutting method but doing it very slowly it was pretty painless.

Did you inform your pain management specialist that you were going to wean yourself off of your fibromyalgia treatment?
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
3025 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:41 pm to
I’ve had lower back surgery. My pain went on for years until I lost control of my bladder one morning. Had already been treating it conservatively, but surgery was my only option as the disc had harden & some fallen down on nerves, which doesn’t show up on an MRI. My Dr said it was like picking sand out and he showed me some samples, & it looked like sand.

Anyway, I’d suggest conservative treatment, yoga, pt, stretching, anything the dr recommends. Change of mattress. Maybe an injection will help. If it’s not too serious, you can usually straighten it out yourself.

NO NARCOTICS!!!!! Leave that shite alone
Good luck
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28327 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:45 pm to
You probably just need to spend money on better shoes.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63686 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:37 pm to
yoga or bjj
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
54150 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 6:38 pm to
Has anyone said weed yet?
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3712 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:24 pm to



quote:

Did you inform your pain management specialist that you were going to wean yourself off of your fibromyalgia treatment?



This was for back surgery and yes my primary doctor helped me with the weanling process. Going cold turkey is a really bad idea for many reasons.
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