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re: Those who are diagnosed with ADD/ADHD...
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:07 pm to Mr. Hangover
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:07 pm to Mr. Hangover
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So you're an addict AND a rip off
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:10 pm to Gings5
I've taken adderal and Concerta. I had more trouble eating with concerta and it made me a bit edgier. Has anyone tried anything that they preferred over adderal?
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:11 pm to Breesus
Interesting perspective.
FYI, you're still a pussy though.
FYI, you're still a pussy though.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:11 pm to Big_Slim
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Focus is a choice but go ahead and keep believing you are a slave to your brain chemistry. I reject that philosophy
This is hilarious
Go touch a hot stove burner and see if you can stop your hand from pulling away. If you can't.. you're a slave to your brain chemistry too
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:17 pm to Big_Slim
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Focus is a choice but go ahead and keep believing you are a slave to your brain chemistry. I reject that philosophy.
So he chooses to make that choice on the medication, but not off of it?
When did you get your medical degree?
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:20 pm to Breesus
Replace ADD/Vyvanse with diabetes/insulin and you people would sound pretty fricking ignorant telling everyone else how their biochemistry problems are just an illusion and could be overcome with dedication.
Ever think if you've managed to "just cope with it" then maybe you were one of those people who didn't really have it in the first place? You know, that you were one of those people you always claim are over diagnosed? Just a thought.
Ever think if you've managed to "just cope with it" then maybe you were one of those people who didn't really have it in the first place? You know, that you were one of those people you always claim are over diagnosed? Just a thought.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:24 pm to Gings5
Went to the shrink when I was in grad school- explained that I had trouble paying attention and was prescribed 30mg Aderral. Eventually occurred to me that I was just lazy and didn't feel like paying attention. Stopped taking the medicine and drank more coffee.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:25 pm to beaverfever
quote:I made the switch to Vyvanse at the advice of my psychiatrist about 3-4 years ago and haven't looked back since. It is essentially the same drug as adderal (same active ingredients) but it uses a different delivery mechanism. I find I'm able to eat a normal amount during the day.
I've taken adderal and Concerta. I had more trouble eating with concerta and it made me a bit edgier. Has anyone tried anything that they preferred over adderal?
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:34 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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These drugs act differently on my brain than they do on yours. I don't get a high or a speed feeling. I've never experienced any desirable side effects so I'm actually at a bit of a loss as to why someone would want to take these medications if they didn't need them. That's just how differently they affect someone who needs them.
Amen, that's my experience too. 30mg twice a day (but usually skipped weekends). I haven't taken any in about 2 1/2 years (didn't seem as effective, might have been because of tolerance and/or that the generic version didn't actually work as well). I plan to talk to my doctor about Vyvanse the next time I'm in as I am definitely not as focused/productive these days (and yes, I was diagnosed as an adult with ADHD Inattentive Type by a psychiatrist, not a GP).
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:52 pm to Gings5
Just curious, of all the Aderral (or other add meds) prescribed users in this thread, what is your diet like?
For those with kids on add meds, what is your childs diet ?
For those with kids on add meds, what is your childs diet ?
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:58 pm to mooseofterror
That's the beauty of amphetamines: we don't need to eat.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:00 pm to mooseofterror
I'm 30 pounds overweight.
But yes, I know a couple of other people on these meds who complain about loss of appetite.
But yes, I know a couple of other people on these meds who complain about loss of appetite.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:06 pm to SlapahoeTribe
I lived in Europe for a long time and there ADD was treated by eating a healthier diet. Very small percentage of cases are prescribed meds for ADD, at least for children...
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:27 pm to mooseofterror
You might lose some appetite at first with Vyvanse. After a few months, especially if you work out and keep active, your appetite is normal. One of the things it's prescribed for is binge eating. So, if you usually like to eat until your up to your ears, you'll probably stop long before that.
Taking it with a lean protein, or smoothie with whey, helps.
If you have small snacks, like almonds or cashews throughout the day, that helps too. By dinner, you'll be hungry like you normally are.
Taking it with a lean protein, or smoothie with whey, helps.
If you have small snacks, like almonds or cashews throughout the day, that helps too. By dinner, you'll be hungry like you normally are.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:31 pm to mooseofterror
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Just curious, of all the Aderral (or other add meds) prescribed users in this thread, what is your diet like?
I eat healthy at least 5 days a week, more or less eating what I want on the weekends. Eat high protein diet rotating carbs on workout days and fats on off days. I play basketball on my off days.
Workout during lunch at work too. Not for everyone, but amphetamines work great with intermittent fasting
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lived in Europe for a long time and there ADD was treated by eating a healthier diet. Very small percentage of cases are prescribed meds for ADD, at least for children...
Diet and exercise are proven to be greatly effective for most adults. Even with the medication, it is necessary.
There's a lot of stuff that helps ADHD outside of the medication. I have my watch set to vibrate every 10 minutes to bring my attention back to my work
To do lists are a must, but an action plan needs to go along with it. The biggest key is a constant system of immediate consequences.
It's a time management issue first and foremost. There's some great videos out there on YouTube.
And sleep is the most important factor imo. One of the reasons many medicate is to try and get their sleep schedule more regular.
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:32 pm to TigerBait1127
I don't know if one way or the other is better, but it feels like Vyvanse works better with a low carb diet.
Could just be that I feel better on a low carb diet regardless.
Could just be that I feel better on a low carb diet regardless.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 1:37 pm to BRgetthenet
No idea.
I do know that some research suggests to constantly drink sugary drinks if you're trying to stimulate the frontal lobe. Not healthy though in the long run
So it could be that your brain isn't using the sugar from the carbs as it's primary source. That's my very uninformed and non-expert opinion, which is probably complete BS.
My pill kicked in if you can tell
I do know that some research suggests to constantly drink sugary drinks if you're trying to stimulate the frontal lobe. Not healthy though in the long run
So it could be that your brain isn't using the sugar from the carbs as it's primary source. That's my very uninformed and non-expert opinion, which is probably complete BS.
My pill kicked in if you can tell
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/31/17 at 2:39 pm to Gings5
I feel sorry for everyone in this thread who feels like they got unlucky somehow with a brain that wasn't setup to concentrate and pay attention. Like everyone is so lucky, and I have to take these pills to compete. That's terrible. It's wrong, but its (I assume) a terrible condition or place to come from.
I found myself close to failing out of LSU, after not having to study in high school, but I fought against it with plain ole dumb determination. I stood up in class (I always say in the back) when I felt my mind slipping, I stayed up all night a couple nights a week studying (since I was terribly inefficient at it) and I just brute force shoved it all in. Mind you, I never turned into a great student, but I learned a shite ton about myself and I, most often than not, easily passed some of the hardest classes at LSU.
I think growing up my classmates considered me to be one of the lucky ones that you all consider to have the correct brain chemistry, but the reality is that no pill could have fixed what I had to do for myself. Of course I could have been diagnosed with all things hyper active related, but in the end what would that have mattered?
I found myself close to failing out of LSU, after not having to study in high school, but I fought against it with plain ole dumb determination. I stood up in class (I always say in the back) when I felt my mind slipping, I stayed up all night a couple nights a week studying (since I was terribly inefficient at it) and I just brute force shoved it all in. Mind you, I never turned into a great student, but I learned a shite ton about myself and I, most often than not, easily passed some of the hardest classes at LSU.
I think growing up my classmates considered me to be one of the lucky ones that you all consider to have the correct brain chemistry, but the reality is that no pill could have fixed what I had to do for myself. Of course I could have been diagnosed with all things hyper active related, but in the end what would that have mattered?
Posted on 3/31/17 at 3:10 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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Replace ADD/Vyvanse with diabetes/insulin and you people would sound pretty fricking ignorant telling everyone else how their biochemistry problems are just an illusion and
Diabetes can kill you and is a massive problem where your body can't process the food you eat. You can't will power your way out of diabetes. That being said, there is some forms of diabetes where diet and exercise can properly manage it, it's a problem that comes from being a fat frick with no will power. Although drugs can treat it as well so you wouldn't have to stop eating Dairy Queen and sitting on your fatass everyday, it would be better to just properly manage your diet and exercise.
ADD is an attention disorder that doesn't kill you and can be overcome with will power. There is an extreme that may require treatment, but 99% of those diagnosed don't fit that category.
Being hyperactive with a short attention span is not a mental disorder requiring drugs anymore than being introverted and book smart is a mental disorder.
Would you be ok with a pill that forced introverted quiet people to be hyperactive and obnoxious? Is the opposite of the massive overblown add diagnosis OK with you?
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Ever think if you've managed to "just cope with it" then maybe you were one of those people who didn't really have it in the first place
No. It's very evident to multiple doctors and anyone who has met me that I have add
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 3:16 pm
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