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re: The ramblings of a St. George opponent
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:03 am to LSURussian
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:03 am to LSURussian
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EBR schools..
it has been the way of life for yrs. You pay for your own kids schools plus other kids to go. I love helping out
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:03 am to Mahootney
quote:
Your earlier statement was incorrect.
Prove it.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:04 am to MrCoolBeans
quote:One school is only responsible for its own rating.
Its kinda easy for a school system to have a high rating when there is only one school. Try and keep an A average when you have 5+ high schools and many more lower schools. Right now there is only one I believe.
Tara has no impact on what Woodlawn scores.
The zachary public school is exceptional. Families relocated to send their kids to that school.
I don't see anyone relocating to send their kids to McKinley.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:08 am to LSURussian
Exactly as I expected.
Once again, you skirt the real issue.
The fact of the matter is that you are not able to make a compelling arguement that EBR schools are accetable in comparison to the local alternatives.
Once again, you skirt the real issue.
The fact of the matter is that you are not able to make a compelling arguement that EBR schools are accetable in comparison to the local alternatives.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:12 am to Mahootney
quote:McKinley HS is a gifted and talented high school. There are hundreds of students at McKinley who live in the SG area. They don't have to move next door to McKinley to attend McKinley. They are provided transportation to school to attend McKinley by EBRSS.
I don't see anyone relocating to send their kids to McKinley.
On the contrary, if SG forms its own school district, the parents of those students will be forced to move out of SG into the EBR school system's geographical area just so their children can continue to attend the school of their choice.
This is the second totally incorrect statement you've made in this thread.
You continue to prove my point that rampant ignorance is a contributing factor for the SG efforts.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:14 am to MrCoolBeans
quote:
Its kinda easy for a school system to have a high rating when there is only one school. Try and keep an A average when you have 5+ high schools and many more lower schools. Right now there is only one I believe.
I think you just made a great case for local schools... Thanks!
You basically said "I would rather a large system with an average of a C than a small system that averaged all A's and B's"
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:14 am to MRTigerFan
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So why haven't these issues bled over to Central or Zachary? Is it because people in the late 70's/early 80's claimed Central and Zachary their home city?
Distance, and Solely based on market surveys which will overbuild the hell out of St. George. Sounds like a winner idea, until you own up to the fact that we have an almost stagnant population growth, so all you're doing is robbing Paul to pay Peter. Both will end up broke in the process.
I will never forget a lecture I attended with a local real estate guru who labeled older properties as being "beyond their investment life" as if to say the answer to older properties was to build new properties in order to maintain a livable area. Not one thought or word given to exactly what happens to those older properties and neighborhoods when the exodus takes place or where the people will come from to take their place, just don't think about it, and build, build, build, so I can make money, money, money.
THAT is what's proven to be our biggest failure as a society, not just here, but the problem is underscored here for sure.
This mentality will overbuild St. George, and already is BTW, and deplete the older properties of valued residents, and so rather than invest in those areas to keep them valuable and up to date and desirable, we milk the property for all it's worth, turn them over to the lowest common denominator in life to turn to shite as we continue to move further and further out in order to avoid the problems we create.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:15 am to LSURussian
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One school is only responsible for its own rating. Tara has no impact on what Woodlawn scores. The zachary public school is exceptional. Families relocated to send their kids to that school.
What Im saying is when Zachary grows there will be more high schools. The rating for the whole system will struggle to keep that "move here, we have A schools" selling point.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:17 am to MrCoolBeans
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breath reeks of sunflower seeds and racism
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:17 am to MrCoolBeans
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What Im saying is when Zachary grows there will be more high schools. The rating for the whole system will struggle to keep that "move here, we have A schools" selling point.
They won't build 2 high schools in Zachary. They'll just expand the current school.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:19 am to LSURussian
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McKinley HS is a gifted and talented high school. There are hundreds of students at McKinley who live in the SG area. They don't have to move next door to McKinley to attend McKinley. They are provided transportation to school to attend McKinley by EBRSS
I seriously doubt "hundreds" of kids from SG area go to Mckinley. I have walked the halls of that school.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:21 am to LSUWrangler
What we really need to do is give CATS more money and move the highest achieving students away from their schools to the schools with the worst test scores. I think 2 tests a year will do it. Dedicate a wing of CATS towards bussing those kids to the different schools. This should greatly benefit the poor children somehow.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:22 am to Mike da Tigah
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Distance,
Central and Zachary both border BR just like SG will.
Eta: only difference is that Central and Zachary are on the North side of BR and SG will be on the south side.
And why hasn't any of that happened in Central and Zachary which are both older than SG as you have pointed out?
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 11:24 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:22 am to pointdog33
quote:
breath reeks of sunflower seeds and racism
was a bit much. Got nut'n but luv for my SG bros. helped my morning go by. now off to enjoy the side effect of coffee.
Its deuce thirty
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:23 am to LSURussian
quote:Yet, let's not look at that the thousands of kids that don't get to attend the magnet schools. Their education is irrelevant because a few kids that already get a great education may have to move. Sacrifice the whole to save a few. Excellent strategy.
On the contrary, if SG forms its own school district, the parents of those students will be forced to move out of SG into the EBR school system's geographical area just so their children can continue to attend the school of their choice.
Ok. So, I looked up the figures on EBR ratings.
They are D-rated.... were in 2008, are in 2013.
"OMG. Sooo much better than an F rating! Parents.... send your kids to EBR schools! You are ignorant (or racist) if you dont!"
F=1, D=2, C=3, B=4, A=5.
2.03 weighted average in 2008.
2.72 weighted average in 2013.
D-rated schools... still.
quote:You may be able to bully others with your condescending statements, but they make you neither superior or correct.
You continue to prove my point that rampant ignorance is a contributing factor for the SG efforts.
In your blind bias, you lose sight of the fact that you are trying to defend the quality of EBR schools versus the excellent alternatives in the area of Zachary, Livingston, or Ascension.
You have lost your credibility.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:24 am to pointdog33
quote:You can doubt it all you want to. That's fine with me.
I seriously doubt "hundreds" of kids from SG area go to Mckinley.
There are currently 499 students at Baton Rouge Magnet High School who live in what would be the SG school district.
That was posted on this board in an article 3 weeks ago by a SG proponent.
Since we know that GT students get second choice behind magnet school students in EBR to attend BRMHS based on an article in the Advocate 2 weeks ago explaining why there are so few GT students accepted into BRMHS (13 GT students total, as I recall), it's very reasonable to hypothesize that there are "hundreds of gifted and talented students" at McKinley who live in SG.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:28 am to Mahootney
quote:You're willfully ignorant, or you're a willful liar.
F=1, D=2, C=3, B=4, A=5.
2.03 weighted average in 2008.
2.72 weighted average in 2013.
D-rated schools... still.
Which is it?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:28 am to MRTigerFan
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Central and Zachary both border BR just like SG will.
No they don't.
I-110 to Scenic and Hooper, Sullivan, and Joor are not borders. They are roads to get there, and yes, eventually they will be, but for now they are still outlying areas that take time to get there. In BR and the proposed St. George all I have to do is cross the street and I'm in one or the other. They share the same sidewalks, sewage, drainage, etc. they are tied at the hip.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:28 am to LSURussian
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Since we know that GT students get second choice behind magnet school students in EBR to attend BRMHS based on an article in the Advocate 2 weeks ago explaining why there are so few GT students accepted into BRMHS (13 GT students total, as I recall), it's very reasonable to hypothesize that there are "hundreds of gifted and talented students" at McKinley who live in SG.
I'm a McKinley GT grad (early 90s). Can someone explain to me why high achieving public school students (GT kids) get second choice at BRMS now? Is this true? I cannot think of one positive reason for doing this.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:33 am to LSURussian
Does that 2.72 say 3 to you?
80% of the schools in the parish are C-rated are below.... EIGHTY PERCENT!
-And to pre-empt your upcoming snide remark. Yes, i understand that your point is 2.5 is the break point between D & C, but I'm also accounting for the magnet schools listed as an A which are not considered public schools. So, when you remove those .... you fall below the magic 2.5.
Fighting over semantics doesn't make your point.
You are just dodging the inevitability that your are defending bad schools.
Is your snide comment supposed to make a point?
Are you STILL blind to the fact that you are advocating for a shitty school system?
Do you not understand that you are comparing these schools to the #1 public school in the state?
Are you that stupid? Or that biased?
Which is it?
80% of the schools in the parish are C-rated are below.... EIGHTY PERCENT!
-And to pre-empt your upcoming snide remark. Yes, i understand that your point is 2.5 is the break point between D & C, but I'm also accounting for the magnet schools listed as an A which are not considered public schools. So, when you remove those .... you fall below the magic 2.5.
Fighting over semantics doesn't make your point.
You are just dodging the inevitability that your are defending bad schools.
Is your snide comment supposed to make a point?
Are you STILL blind to the fact that you are advocating for a shitty school system?
Do you not understand that you are comparing these schools to the #1 public school in the state?
Are you that stupid? Or that biased?
Which is it?
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 11:41 am
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