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re: The move to legalize same-sex marriage in La. commences TODAY

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Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:48 am to
The homophobia in this thread is comical.

And here...we....go:

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Posted by The Stash
The Boot
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:48 am to
i just think that when you allow two gays to have a union and call that action a marriage you are saying that marriage can be understood apart from procreation and that makes zero sense.

Marriage has existed throughout history as a way to regulate the obligations and responsibilities of procreation. So when you allow the union of two gays to be called a marriage, you are changing the definition so much that it is destroying the need for the institution of marriage.

Makes zero sense to me. None. Nada. Haha
Posted by TJRibMe
Houston, Mexas
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:48 am to
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since you tainted it with that last line I couldn't agree there
religious conservatives are an easy target today, that's my point.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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46883 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:48 am to
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Business owners should have the right to conduct their business according to their beliefs. It boggles my mind to see govt dictating how private enterprise is conducted.

Well we're in agreement on that.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:48 am to
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Try holding a world view that would clearly lose you clients if you were open about it...it's fricking sweet.



Why do you need to let everyone know you're atheist? I am Christian but have never felt a need to discuss it with anyone. There are people on both sides that do however, and I have never understood it. Just keep your mouth shut and keep your beliefs to yourself.

You being Atheist isn't like you're waking around with a scarlet letter sewn on to your clothes so I don't see the big deal. Sounds like you just want a reason to bitch like the rest of the world. We don't need your beliefs and thoughts crammed down our throats.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:48 am to
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religious conservatives are an easy target today, that's my point.
Posted by SuzukiGoat
Atchafalaya Basin
Member since Jan 2014
1086 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:49 am to
Why would you share it anyways?

I beloved what I believe because I'm sick of others throwing their beliefs in my face.

Man up, keep it to yourself.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:50 am to
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Why do you need to let everyone know you're atheist?
exactly

my atheism defines me as a person about like my shoe size. IDGAF
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:50 am to
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i just think that when you allow two gays to have a union and call that action a marriage you are saying that marriage can be understood apart from procreation and that makes zero sense.

So I assume couples with a sterile partner should also be prevented from marrying. Along with older couples with children who don't want to add to their brood, no room for them in the marriage club.
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
7201 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:50 am to
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i just think that when you allow two gays to have a union and call that action a marriage you are saying that marriage can be understood apart from procreation and that makes zero sense.


Where does it say marriage is strictly for procreation? The Bible? Now you're getting into religious issues which shouldn't be relevant given separation of church and state.

The bottom line is, the fundamental difference between those for or against gay marriage is that those against still think gay people actually choose to be gay, rather than being born that way. Which is what really makes zero sense.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:52 am to
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i just think that when you allow two gays to have a union and call that action a marriage you are saying that marriage can be understood apart from procreation and that makes zero sense.


So only two fertile heterosexuals can get married?

Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167150 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:52 am to
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my atheism defines me as a person about like my shoe size. IDGAF



Well said. Too many people think everyone needs to know their business these days.
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
7201 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:54 am to
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I don't see that happening in the next 2 decades


I'd take that bet all day.

Posted by The Stash
The Boot
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:54 am to
I am just letting you know how the definition of the word came about. The only reason the word has existed in human societies and civilizations was to regulate from a social point of view the obligations and responsibilities attendant upon procreation. I see absoultely no reason to change definitions of words just because you feel like doing so.

When you start playing games this way you are actually acting as if the institution of marriage has no basis independent of your own arbitrary whim. That is crazy to me.

I am all for gays being allowed to have a union and tat union being recognized but to call that action a marriage is crazy.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 8:00 am
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:54 am to
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religious conservatives are an easy target today, that's my point.


Then it was a terrible point.

They run everything...literally. What you suggest it being oppressed is really only FINALLY having to compete on the playing field with alternative ideas where once your ran roughshod over everyone else who ws either unable or unwilling to voice dissent.

You get a little bit of push back and conservative Christians start crying like little bitches about oppression.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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46883 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:57 am to
You're clearly referring to your religious interpretation of the word and are grasping at straws to come up with a secular argument to support your conclusion.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:59 am to
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Why do you need to let everyone know you're atheist?


I don't. It almost NEVER comes up. But...I live in South Louisiana, and you're not going to insult both of us by suggestion that it's not likely that many times daily, both in my personal and professional life, I have people talk to me about their religious faith...are you? When that happens, it's because the assumptions is because we're both on the same page. At that point, I have a choice. Smile and nod in agreement, or say that I don't feel the same way or have the same beliefs. Because my beliefs are so looked down upon, I am forced to either hide them or risk the penalty that comes with having them.

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I am Christian but have never felt a need to discuss it with anyone.


I wish that was the norm.

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Just keep your mouth shut and keep your beliefs to yourself.


Agreed.

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You being Atheist isn't like you're waking around with a scarlet letter sewn on to your clothes so I don't see the big deal. Sounds like you just want a reason to bitch like the rest of the world. We don't need your beliefs and thoughts crammed down our throats.



See above. You'd never EVER know my beliefs in actual life...unless you felt the need to start preaching to me. And even then, it would take a while before I finally responded. But, given where I live, it happens...and far more often than it ought to.

So...suggestion Christians are being repressed is sort of funny to me.
Posted by The Stash
The Boot
Member since Jan 2014
1308 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:00 am to
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You're clearly referring to your religious interpretation of the word and are grasping at straws to come up with a secular argument to support your conclusion.



Not at all.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 8:01 am
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
7201 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:00 am to
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You're clearly referring to your religious interpretation of the word and are grasping at straws to come up with a secular argument to support your conclusion.


Not to mention making the argument that something in 2014 should be left unchanged because it was that way 10,000 years ago. That alone is an absurd argument.

I suppose the end of slavery should've never happened, or women's suffrage, or tort laws ( )
Posted by The Stash
The Boot
Member since Jan 2014
1308 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:02 am to
I am just saying that words mean things and we shouldn't change definitions of words just because somebody feels like doing so.


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Not to mention making the argument that something in 2014 should be left unchanged because it was that way 10,000 years ago. That alone is an absurd argument.


Yes. Definitions should be left alone. Why do you support changing the meanings if words ????
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 8:05 am
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