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re: The move to legalize same-sex marriage in La. commences TODAY

Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:28 pm to
Did the supposed "study" take into account that gay couples don't get the same benefits and resources that married couples do, which may make it more difficult to raise kids? I bet not.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Can't win at the ballot box. Go to court.

Way to work for "tolerance."


So uninformed and ignorant. Most of the states with gay marriage had it passed by either statewide vote or by the ELECTED state legislatures.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Did the supposed "study" take into account that gay couples don't get the same benefits and resources that married couples do, which may make it more difficult to raise kids? I bet not.



The study was completely destroyed by the author's peers. Just because it was submitted to a respectable scientific journal for peer review does not make it respectable science.

Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:33 pm to
Being a parent, I have studied a lot about parenting. I feel sorry for children with one parent or one absent parent. I know the what the implication of my actions are to my children. I know how things my parents did impacted me and it parallels what specialists on the subject say. I don't think its conjecture. We do agree on one thing, parents today suck.

Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:34 pm to
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gay couples don't get the same benefits and resources that married couples do




We need a BS police force for both sides on this subject.

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:38 pm to
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We need a BS police force for both sides on this subject.



Married people get more government benefits...
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:43 pm to
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We need a BS police force for both sides on this subject.


Yeah...I thought it was pretty straight forward...
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Most of the states with gay marriage had it passed by either statewide vote or by the ELECTED state legislatures.


Great. That's how it is supposed to work. Argue your position and convince the electorate of the rightness of your cause. The losers may not like it, but they have to accept that the outcome was/is "the will of the people."

They to achieve the outcome via litigation creates nothing but animosity (see Roe v. Wade).

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So uninformed and ignorant.


You were saying...
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23100 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:49 pm to
just pass over the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about since you apparently believe the courts are forcing all these states to have gay marriage.

And one of the purposes of the courts is to protect minorities. You can't always go by "the will of the people". If you did, interracial marriage would probably still be illegal in some states.
Posted by skinny domino
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:22 pm to
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The move to legalize same-sex marriage in La. commences TODAYi'll never understand why people give a shite about stuff like this.
usually the folks who complain the loudest about this - are the ones in the closet and really want a way out.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Yeah...I thought it was pretty straight forward...


What are these denied resources?
Posted by skinny domino
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Evangelicals need something to fear monger about that hits close to home.
yep, allow brother Jimmy and son Donnie to raise bucks with the bible shakers.
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:04 pm to
Today the Supreme Court of Kentucky ruled that Kentucky’s denial of recognition for valid same-sex marriages violates the United States Constitution’s guarantee of equal protection under the law, even under the most deferential standard of review. Accordingly, the Court deemed Kentucky’s statutes and constitutional amendment that mandate this denial as unconstitutional.

This is the identical argument lodged by La.'s Forum for Equality in today's lawsuit.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 3:06 pm
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:47 pm to
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What are these denied resources?


Paying less for healthcare and getting a better benefits package value. You can deduct more on a joint filed tax return.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Paying less for healthcare and getting a better benefits package value. You can deduct more on a joint filed tax return.


More money does not equal better parenting.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:54 pm to
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More money does not equal better parenting.
is there some law that I don't know about that requires married couples (gay or straight) to become parents?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13990 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:54 pm to
I don't know, that's not what I am talking about.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:57 pm to
my bad, didn't read the comment thread back far enough
Posted by i drink the kool aid
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:17 pm to
The biggest proponent of same sex marriage comes from divorce lawyers. Think about all the money they could make if it were legal.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:41 pm to
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More money does not equal better parenting.


I think you misunderstand. Money is certainly a variable that should play into any argument on the well-being of a child.
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