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re: The exploiters are starting to come out in full force

Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:40 am to
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6452 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:40 am to
They're just trying to make a buck. Same things with hurricanes, tornados, hail storms, etc. Just business IMO.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:43 am to
quote:

You just said people could gut their houses with their bare hands, never mind that many of these people are elderly like my grand father. So yeah, what you said was clueless, Katrina or not.


You said people needed to do quickly for mold reasons, and the parts most susceptible to that are the walls and insulation, which most certainly can be done without tools.

The greater point still remains though - where are these people sitting on stockpiles of hammers and crowbars? HD or Lowes being out of stock isn't proof of any wrongdoing.
Posted by lsuwins3
Member since Nov 2008
1619 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:02 pm to
The days of people buying tons of generators and selling them in a grocery store parking lot are over. With large distribution most stores will have more product in a day or two. And like others have said, there is always Amazon.

But theres always a buck to be made. Many people became millionaires off of Katrina.
A lot of it came from our tax dollars. I don't see the Red Cross or FEMA handing out $2000 to everybody like they did during Katrina/Rita.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56007 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:06 pm to
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yeah this sucks, but in all honesty this is the one way you can ensure the area gets an excess of workers to do the work. it's a give-take situation


exactly...you are asking people to go into miserable conditions and do back breaking work while living like animals...it takes a pretty good bit of money to make normal people want to do that kind of shite.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:22 pm to
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Tree cutting prices went sky high because of price gouging after Katrina


Tree cutting prices went sky high because the demand, for tree cutters far exceeded the supply.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:25 pm to
Where do the people that come from out of town find a place to stay?

Seems like every apartment, hotel, etc would be booked for a long time to come.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:25 pm to
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yep and local tree cutting businesses started going under in the long run.


This makes no sense, the local tree cutters I used in Katrina and Gustav charged the same or more than those from outside the area.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49507 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:31 pm to
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Floor removal tools and machinery are being brought up in bulk from hardware stores before individuals can purchase. Those that bought in bulk are now renting out that same equipment for 10 times the price.



Louisiana is one of 34 states that doesn't allow price gouging (i.e. charging based on a suddenly drastic increase in demand). So you get stuff like this. Eliminating the extra middle man would cut down on costs.

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I've heard of contractors (and Mexicans) not showing up for an agreed upon job because someone else offered more money


That's bullshite. They should get sued. Problem is that it costs money to sue someone, so the person getting fricked over may not even find it worthwhile to sue. Hopefully they get their money back and have had some "free" work done.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:32 pm to
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Where do the people that come from out of town find a place to stay?


During Gustav, some of the tree cutters were camped in tents close on a vacant lot close to one of the properties I own in South Baton Rouge. The owners of the lot rented the space to them, and the city didn't care. There were similar camps scattered around town, probably will do the same for this event.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:35 pm to
Ugh, a camper, maybe, but an extended stay, sleeping in tents after busting your arse all day sounds miserable.

Thanks.
Posted by EffingTiger
Member since Nov 2015
333 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 12:10 am to
Hate to say this, but some of the exploiters will be some of the newly seeded non profits that may be created during the recovery process.

This happened in N.O. post- Katrina.

The most glaring example I can think of is a new non profit organized to link the displaced to affordable housing in New Orleans.

There wasn't much available to begin with, and what was available was price gouged.

This agency actually provided a list of phone numbers to existing non - profits in the area that also could not link folks to housing because of its scarcity.

One of the phone numbers provided was to the agency my wife was with.

The lady that contacted the agency and spoke to my wife told her that she had been all but guaranteed housing.

My wife, who had been with an established non-profit for many years, noticed a sharp increase in the number of non-profiteers that descended upon the city, most of which could actually do little or nothing and used the seed money to pay themselves the administration fees.

One of the most hard working groups were faith based volunteers, many from out of town and many local that earned nothing for their services.

They didn't mind getting their hands dirty with all of the house gutting, etc.. that needed to be done. They really made a difference.




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