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Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:22 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Was a witness and first responder to a motorcycle wreck in Chattanooga last fall. Man and women simply laid down on the interstate when they hit some loose gravel on a curve. They slid into the cables. He died and she was air lifted. Later learned she broke her neck but survived. I truly think they would have both survived with broken bones and other minor injuries had they just tumbled into the grass median.
Those cable supports tore them up. Chunks of skin gouged out of their bodies and bones shattered when they hit them.
Those cable supports tore them up. Chunks of skin gouged out of their bodies and bones shattered when they hit them.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:40 am to Trauma14
What would've happened if a car hit the same spot and slid into the cables?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:42 am to Bjorn Cyborg
My sister was killed by a drunk driver who crossed over on 49 in Opelousas. Wish the barriers had been there
Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:44 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Biker going at extreme rate of speed with no control and no helmet
Shits given = 0
But I feel sorry for his family having raised an idiot.
Shits given = 0
But I feel sorry for his family having raised an idiot.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:45 am to Trauma14
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Was a witness and first responder to a motorcycle wreck in Chattanooga last fall. Man and women simply laid down on the interstate when they hit some loose gravel on a curve. They slid into the cables. He died and she was air lifted. Later learned she broke her neck but survived. I truly think they would have both survived with broken bones and other minor injuries had they just tumbled into the grass median.
Those cable supports tore them up. Chunks of skin gouged out of their bodies and bones shattered when they hit them.
I think that speaks more to the dangers of motorcycles than it does to the median cables.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:06 pm to GetCocky11
Yep. Sorry motorcyclists.
I came within 5-6 ft of a head on collision with a Ford tool body 3/4 ton truck on I10 which would have almost certainly killed me. Amazingly the guy made it back into the median after missing me. I want the cables everywhere.
I came within 5-6 ft of a head on collision with a Ford tool body 3/4 ton truck on I10 which would have almost certainly killed me. Amazingly the guy made it back into the median after missing me. I want the cables everywhere.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 3:59 pm to Hammertime
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What would've happened if a car hit the same spot and slid into the cables?
Just gave my personal story about the cables. Never had any opinion one way or the other before that incident. Reading this thread after i posted and I definitely see the need for the cables.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:01 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
This thread reminds me of the seatbelts are dangerous thinking, since a few people get trapped in the car during fire or water plunge. The overwhelming majority of the time seatbelts save lives.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:06 pm to The Mick
I saw a cable barrier save a couple lives today on I65. Driver crossed through the median and the only thing that kept him from going head first into a mass of cars on the other side was the cable barrier.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:06 pm to lsu13lsu
They are cheap to install relative to other types of barriers and often less destructive to any vehicles that come in contact with them relative to hard barriers like concrete. Not sure about maintenance. Properly set up concrete can be relatively maintenance free for many years barring any impact. Cables would probably require more frequent inspection, etc. just not sure which would cost more over time.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:08 pm to The Mick
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This thread reminds me of the seatbelts are dangerous thinking, since a few people get trapped in the car during fire or water plunge. The overwhelming majority of the time seatbelts save lives.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:13 pm to lsu13lsu
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Then why not have the cables on both sides of the road?
Because if a car is out of control and heading off the road, the last thing you want to do is deflect it back into traffic.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:16 pm to mdomingue
I'm sure over 50 years the concrete is cheaper. The bad thing about concrete is it doesn't slow down what's hitting it. It just stops it or deflects it. The cable is more likely to hold the car in the median, which is what you want.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:18 pm to MountainTiger
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Then why not have the cables on both sides of the road?
They're designed so that they will catch vehicles from both the near travel lanes and across the median. If you place them correctly that is. Some of that is still being researched.
Source: Am civil engineer.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:23 pm to Trauma14
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Was a witness and first responder to a motorcycle wreck in Chattanooga last fall. Man and women simply laid down on the interstate when they hit some loose gravel on a curve. They slid into the cables. He died and she was air lifted.
This is horrible, but engineers have to design for the most probable scenario that fits within a reasonable cost. Motorcycle riders just don't represent a very big percentage of overall traffic, so they don't represent the most likely scenario. Also, motorcycles are just more dangerous then cars in almost also traffic scenarios, not just when considering median barriers.
ETA: From NHTSA data in 2015, motorcyclists die at a rate 26 times higher than passenger car occupants when adjusted for miles driven.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:58 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The bad thing about concrete is it doesn't slow down what's hitting it. It just stops it or deflects it
Agreed
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:01 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Going fast + no helmet = no pity
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Most ignorant post on this board in a long time.
Exactly what chance does a motorcycle have if it's crossing the median into oncoming traffic? Either they take someone else out or end up like Swiss cheese without killing others
Exactly what chance does a motorcycle have if it's crossing the median into oncoming traffic? Either they take someone else out or end up like Swiss cheese without killing others
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