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re: The butt hurt from flag burning is so severe that it is now illegal in Iberville Parish
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:38 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:38 am to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:Agreed
In order for this to be changed, a similar case would have to make its way to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court vacate its prior ruling on this issue.
quote:People probably never thought it would become legal to burn a flag. Never say never.
That isn't happening.
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:39 am to lsucoonass
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dont think it should be unconstitutional to burn one for the hell of it, but i do think you would be a complete shite of person to do that.
Totally agree. Thats kind of my definition of freedom. Everyone should have the freedom to express themselves, for better or worse.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:39 am to celltech1981
huge difference in disposing and just burning
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:41 am to NYNolaguy1
They should just arrest them for the fire itself and save the trouble. To my knowledge you cant light something on fire in a public place just for fun.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:44 am to celltech1981
From the Advocate:"Penalties for people who place words, designs or advertisements on the flag or defile the flag in any way could face a $1,000 fine or six months jail time."
So does it apply only to actual flags or images of flags too? Would this be illegal?
or
So does it apply only to actual flags or images of flags too? Would this be illegal?
or
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:45 am to celltech1981
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Also, how tf are they going to enforce this? It's going to cost taxpayers a fortune.
Umm they see someone burning a flag and they give them a ticket? What exactly is going to cost a fortune?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:47 am to celltech1981
Parish councils are always trying to legislate morality. Look at all the regulations for bars and strip clubs. They take all that shite way to far.
I remember the Livingston Parish Council giving a store owner hell because his front door was five feet too close to the far corner of church property. He didn't build that close, the church moved that close. He tried to get a variance (which makes perfect sense to anyone with more than two brain cells), and the council basically told him to just move his door. And I could rant for days about all the bullshite that got stirred up because of the gravel pits in Livingston Parish.
I remember the Livingston Parish Council giving a store owner hell because his front door was five feet too close to the far corner of church property. He didn't build that close, the church moved that close. He tried to get a variance (which makes perfect sense to anyone with more than two brain cells), and the council basically told him to just move his door. And I could rant for days about all the bullshite that got stirred up because of the gravel pits in Livingston Parish.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:49 am to LSU316
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They should just make it legal to fight people that burn flags.
I hate rednecks
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:50 am to crimsonsaint
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What exactly is going to cost a fortune?
litigation. The ACLU is already wanting to get involved. Any legal action taken against this law is a slam dunk since it has already been addressed in the supreme court. The parish will spend a fortune if they actually try to defend this law.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:54 am to celltech1981
Extra downvote for enhancing your credibility by using "butt hurt" as the first word of the thread title (A, An, The don't count.)
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:56 am to celltech1981
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The parish will spend a fortune if they actually try to defend this law.
These councils just love wasting money.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:58 am to Packer
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Is this the same parish that tried to outlaw saggy pants, shorts, and skirts? The answer is yes:
LINK
Cherry picking a bit.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:01 am to The Mick
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People probably never thought it would become legal to burn a flag. Never say never.
It has always been legal to burn a flag. In fact, it is code TO burn a flag.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:07 am to MasterofTigerBait
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trying to score cheap political points with Jingoism.
Obviously this is the point.
This reminds me of when Blanco and the legislature put a ban on violent video games into law in 2006 when similar laws were being overturned.
I wonder how that turned out:
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The law was permanently enjoined[6] on November 29, 2006, and the court entered final judgment on December 5, 2006.
In his April 10, 2007 ruling,[7] Judge Brady stated that he was dumbfounded that the law even passed and was signed into law, given that similar laws were struck down in other states and those same states were forced to pay the legal fees of the plaintiffs. Judge Brady ordered the state to pay $92,000 in legal fees to the plaintiffs, ESA and EMA.[8]
Wikipedia LINK
So easily over $100,000 spent by our state politicians so they can grandstand and score political points.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:18 am to crimsonsaint
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What exactly is going to cost a fortune?
How much do you think lawyers charge per hour? How many hours will be spent for each case in court?
Now multiply that the number tickets written.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:27 am to celltech1981
Speaking purely in hypotheticals here:
1) Iberville Parish should be able to make their own rules regarding treatment of the flag.
2) I do not support the idea of making flag burning illegal
3) People who burn the flag are dicks and it's fine for them to be chastised by the community and face possible career-related repercussions if you're seen doing it thanks to this social media-centric world we live in today. The government should not be able to punish you though.
1) Iberville Parish should be able to make their own rules regarding treatment of the flag.
2) I do not support the idea of making flag burning illegal
3) People who burn the flag are dicks and it's fine for them to be chastised by the community and face possible career-related repercussions if you're seen doing it thanks to this social media-centric world we live in today. The government should not be able to punish you though.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 11:29 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:29 am to BulldogXero
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1) Iberville Parish should be able to make their own rules regarding treatment of the flag.
They can waste all the time and money making all the rules they want regarding desecrating the flag but that doesn't make it constitutional or in any way enforceable or in any way a good idea.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:39 am to crimsonsaint
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What exactly is going to cost a fortune?
The legal fees paid to the ACLU when they challenge the law in federal court and lose.
See the $92,000 the state paid in legal fees for the violent video game law that the state passed when other laws were being overturned around the country.
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In his April 10, 2007 ruling,[7] Judge Brady stated that he was dumbfounded that the law even passed and was signed into law, given that similar laws were struck down in other states and those same states were forced to pay the legal fees of the plaintiffs. Judge Brady ordered the state to pay $92,000 in legal fees to the plaintiffs, ESA and EMA.[8]
LINK
I mean, come on. There was less than 34,000 people in Iberville Parish; did they really need a law to ban flag burning? Was there some big flag burning epidemic in Iberville Parish that somehow escaped everyone's attention?
No, it's just political grandstanding which will cost the parish money in legal fees.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:40 am to lsu2006
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They can waste all the time and money making all the rules they want regarding desecrating the flag but that doesn't make it constitutional or in any way enforceable or in any way a good idea.
Why should the federal government care about what rules a county in a state make up regarding treatment of a flag?
Do they not have bigger, more important things to worry about like crippling national debt, soaring healthcare costs, and shrinking importance on the world stage?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:41 am to BulldogXero
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Why should the federal government care about what rules a county in a state make up regarding treatment of a flag?
Why should the Courts ensure the Constitution is protected? Is this what you're asking? What does the Federal Government have to do with a municipality enacting a clearly unconstitutional law?
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