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re: Storm Tracking Thread: Post Tropical Storm Hermine

Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by deuce985
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:13 pm to
I saw the local news guy(one with Margaret Oar(sp?) said that wave coming off Africa in his opinion will not pose much threat to Louisiana. I didn't hear his explanation as to why. I think he said cool fronts will be rolling through that will essentially push it away. True?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:17 pm to
As we get later in the season it does get tougher for a storm to make it all the way across the atlantic withiut a front picking it up. Fronts start to come through fairly regularly by mid-late september
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:24 pm to
See that convection blossoming to the NE...me thinks the turn is about to begin. It's struggling to spread out west and able to bubble up to the N and E. It's starting to feel the trough IMHO, and is about to turn.
Posted by jlu03
San Diego
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:37 pm to
The last couple frames on the radar show storms blowing up again in the SW blob.

Posted by TypoKnig
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:38 pm to
Storms along the northwest and northern fronts of this storm seem to be moving northeast. Is this the ridge starting to exert its force?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:52 pm to
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See that convection blossoming to the NE...me thinks the turn is about to begin. It's struggling to spread out west and able to bubble up to the N and E. It's starting to feel the trough IMHO, and is about to turn.


The trough is actually still up in north central Canada and won't really start to play a significant role for another 24 hours or so. The system is now kind of caught in a weakness in the flow with the Plains ridge over the top and the Atlantic ridge to the east. The general trend should be N to NE until the trough starts to pick it up and accelerate it out.
Posted by moffettduck
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:57 pm to
10:00 PM CDT Tue Aug 30
Location: 24.3°N 87.8°W
Moving: NNW at 2 mph
Min pressure: 1004 mb
Max sustained: 35 mph
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:58 pm to
It's starting to look a little mean



I'd say that it's coming together better than any other time in its life right at this moment. The LLC and the MLC are starting to align closer and closer to eachother, and when that happens we should see a massive storm churn up in terms of area covered. I still think this growth was too late in the process to make landfall at anything other than a TS or Cat 1, but I'm no professional.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:03 pm to
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The LLC and the MLC are starting to align closer and closer to each other


There is really no way to determine that without recon. Sat data, esp. at night just isn't good enough. Maybe if we get an ASCAT pass before recon gets back in there then you could make some assumptions about what is going on.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:03 pm to
looks like a big ole girl
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84782 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:04 pm to
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The last couple frames on the radar show storms blowing up again in the SW blob.


As if we needed anymore proof that we're far from experts on the tropics, let our continued use of the word "blob" be Exhibit A as to how informal it is.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84782 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:05 pm to
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Maybe if we get an ASCAT pass before recon gets back in there then you could make some assumptions about what is going on.


That ASCAT thing is really something. I need to read up more on how it works.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84782 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Storms along the northwest and northern fronts of this storm seem to be moving northeast. Is this the ridge starting to exert its force?




To my knowledge that is just outflow and not necessarily indicative of any steering patterns.

I'm no expert, but I did just finish watching Levi's latest blog on TropicalTidbits.com.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:08 pm to
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That ASCAT thing is really something. I need to read up more on how it works.


We need rapid scan ASCAT and microwave and not just sitting around drinking beer waiting for it to maybe pass close by

Oh, and 24/7 Global Hawk flights for storms threatening the US.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11399 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:10 pm to
I think it's toughness speaks to how fertile conditions are this season
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:12 pm to
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As if we needed anymore proof that we're far from experts on the tropics, let our continued use of the word "blob" be Exhibit A as to how informal it is.


At least y'all don't use landmass
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84782 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:14 pm to
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Oh, and 24/7 Global Hawk flights for storms threatening the US.


When I read about that thing this morning I wondered why it doesn't completely replace hurricane hunter flights altogether.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35610 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:14 pm to
Thanks for the clarification rds.
Posted by moffettduck
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Feb 2016
857 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:23 pm to
I think it was John Hope who said when you get the massive cloud deck to the east of a tropical system, as indicated in that pic, you can expect a very rapidly strengthening storm that will get very large as long as it doesn't have any westerly wind shear.
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