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re: State officials lose hope that Louisiana can reverse coastal land loss
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:16 pm to LSUlunatic
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:16 pm to LSUlunatic
It amazes me that people actually choose to live in Louisiana
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:21 pm to 1234567k
If some of you losers ever left the house you'd see where water covers what used to be land 10, 20 years ago. It's ok I know it's easier to bury your head in the sand and tell yourself it's not happening.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:39 pm to Grim
Wouldn't live anywhere else in the world
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:57 pm to Sparkplug#1
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I remember tires for this project being around Grand Isle. Millions of tires were breeding grounds for billions of mosquitos. It didn't go over well, and never made it out of the staging process.
So cool plans are constantly made but never implemented? There are 4 ways to try and do this.
1 Govt. in charge- All the money gets siphoned off or used to fund studies. No money left to do anything.
2 Private business in charge- Money all goes to pay executive salaries. Nothing gets done.
3. Charitable Org.- Money is all spent advertising for more donations and paying salaries. Nothing gets done.
4. Volunteer labor- The Govt. stops all progress because a multi year study was not done and the plan has not been discussed ad nauseum, until there is no land left.
What can be done?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:58 pm to LSUlunatic
This fight was lost 20 years ago. All efforts to halt or reverse coastal erosion have been jokes that were undertaken to get politicians reelected. I used to give a shite about this, but lost hope decades ago.
It should not affect BR much. Eventually huge concrete dykes will have to be built around the south nd east of New Orleans to protect the Mississippi River.
It should not affect BR much. Eventually huge concrete dykes will have to be built around the south nd east of New Orleans to protect the Mississippi River.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:02 pm to Ed Osteen
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It amazes me that there are still people who don't believe in climate change
Man made or natural is the issue. The only way man could actually "change" the climate is to keep it from changing.
It's been shifting non stop throughout planet earth's history
If those damn cave men with their cave fires had implemented carbon credits maybe we would still have the Bering land bridge?
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:02 pm to REG861
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I know it's easier to bury your head in the sand
I think you mean mud haha
I'll be here all day
Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:03 pm to Grim
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It amazes me that people actually choose to live in Louisiana
Where do you choose to live?
I no longer live in Louisiana, but have lived and traveled to many amazing places. There is something special about new orleans and South La. Just ask Bob Dylan
Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:16 pm to Tigers_Saints
It would be great if all the people who claim to love Nola/la so much did something or showed the slightest alarm at the deterioration of our coast.
Coming from NO, it's darkly humorous to me to see all the people with wealth and influence play dress up for bullshite charity 'causes' instead of concern over the coast which is an existential crisis.
Coming from NO, it's darkly humorous to me to see all the people with wealth and influence play dress up for bullshite charity 'causes' instead of concern over the coast which is an existential crisis.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:21 pm to man in the stadium
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Sea level rise predictions are now on the order of a meter over the next century. There ar
This is total bunk.
This would mean a 1 ft rise every 25 yrs and this prediction has been around a while. It is not happening at anywhere near that rate.
(But the marsh is eroding) that is a diff issue
Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:27 pm to REG861
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Coming from NO, it's darkly humorous to me to see all the people with wealth and influence play dress up for bullshite charity 'causes' instead of concern over the coast which is an existential crisis.
I've lived in New Orleans for the past few years & it doesn't seem like there's any sort of alarm re: this issue. I would venture to guess the lack of concern is attributable to both the murky science and the city's laissez faire attitude.
Also, I don't know of any other city in the US that faces a similar issue.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:29 pm to Grim
With all it's faults, South Louisiana has a feel and charm not easily duplicated elsewhere. It is one of the extremely few tourist destinations where visitors are made to few genuinely welcome and the sights are actually worth seeing.
It is not uncommon for visitors to make multiple trips here and to eventually buy a home here.
If you traveled very much at all, you know this is true.
It is not uncommon for visitors to make multiple trips here and to eventually buy a home here.
If you traveled very much at all, you know this is true.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:27 pm to LSUgusto
What's interesting about the photos I posted, comparing images some 15 years apart, illustrates a multitude of failures in restoration efforts.
The levee system at the extreme left of the photo, which was new in 1998, was the supposed solution to saving that marsh. But, water-control was never properly managed because of political pressures from sports fisherman and hunters, commercial fisheries, oil companies, etc.
The other experiment you see in the photos are terraces. That concept was heralded as a great new thing and, as you can tell, did nothing in terms of restoration.
The ultimate solution across South Louisiana is to restore the hydrology of these systems to as natural as possible, and that can never happen because of the livelihoods and political pressures at stake.
It's one hell of a dilemma.
The levee system at the extreme left of the photo, which was new in 1998, was the supposed solution to saving that marsh. But, water-control was never properly managed because of political pressures from sports fisherman and hunters, commercial fisheries, oil companies, etc.
The other experiment you see in the photos are terraces. That concept was heralded as a great new thing and, as you can tell, did nothing in terms of restoration.
The ultimate solution across South Louisiana is to restore the hydrology of these systems to as natural as possible, and that can never happen because of the livelihoods and political pressures at stake.
It's one hell of a dilemma.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:41 pm to LaBR4
Your map is amusing. You do realize the atchafalaya basin is actually the only area that is silting in to the point that it is building up land?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:42 pm to upgrayedd
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upgrayedd
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In my experience, the current mitigation system is completely corrupt
Based on what? I'm genuinely curious.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:59 pm to tonydtigr
quote:Yeah, that ticked me off about that map, too. It also dispels the notion that there's not enough silt in the river system to rebuild land.
You do realize the atchafalaya basin is actually the only area that is silting in
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:01 pm to 1234567k
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This is total bunk
Stick your head in the sand all you want but it is rising and will continue.
Below is measured data from Grand Isle. The sea level rise in the future century will not be linear, but will accelerate exponentially.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:12 pm to Cosmo
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Its all about 100 years of the LA coast being deprived of MS River silt.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:16 pm to GFunk
quote:How much are you willing to read? I could write you a small book on the politics and implementation of coastal restoration efforts in just the two photos I posted on Page 3 of this thread.
Based on what? I'm genuinely curious.
The synopsis is, government spends millions of taxpayer dollars on mitigation that does little to address or restore the natural hydrology that can rebuild our wetlands. But people make big money off those efforts.
There are certainly some benefits to these programs, but its ultimately a fart in the wind compared to reversing actual land loss.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:28 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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If I recall, the picture on the left was the way Louisiana is sometimes represented on maps currently and historically. Whereas the right image is what would be accurate if you represent areas that are below sea level.
Exactly
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