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re: State officials lose hope that Louisiana can reverse coastal land loss
Posted on 6/18/16 at 3:59 pm to Sparkplug#1
Posted on 6/18/16 at 3:59 pm to Sparkplug#1
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You could break the levees along the Mississippi and it still wouldn't help. Too many locks that trap sediment up north these days. Enjoy it while we can, is all we can do.
What locks are you speaking of? And where are you getting this info? Your personal theory?
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Posted on 6/18/16 at 4:13 pm to LSUlunatic
It has nothing to do with rising sea levels
The beaches to our east arent losing land
Its all about 100 years of the LA coast being deprived of MS River silt.
The beaches to our east arent losing land
Its all about 100 years of the LA coast being deprived of MS River silt.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 1:17 am
Posted on 6/18/16 at 4:17 pm to LSUlunatic
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average of a football field eroding away per hour.
there's NO fricking way that this is true. I've been hearing this for years now. if it were true, you could go crabbing in Pineville by now.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 4:24 pm to Ostrich
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I think everyone agrees that the climate does indeed change over time. People disagree that it's a problem the requires government intervention/funding
Plenty of people disagree that it's changing at all. Just visit the poli board any time there's an unseasonably cold day.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 4:37 pm to northshorebamaman
There's a difference between climate change and global warming.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 4:39 pm to LSUlefty
I know and a cold day in Houma doesn't disprove climate change.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 4:42 pm to feedthepig20
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What locks are you speaking of? And where are you getting this info? Your personal theory?
There are over 29 locks and dams in the upper Mississippi River. These create pools where sediment can't be dispersed to a delta, which is exactly what LA used to be. We are no longer a high sediment depositing delta. I don't have anywhere for you to surf the web, but the definition of delta and what is in place on the upper Mississippi, along with the leeves should be suffice for you to understand.
Edit: Forgot to mention the dams on the Ohio and Missouri rivers as well. There is no way to spin it, we're fricked.
This post was edited on 6/18/16 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 6/18/16 at 4:46 pm to LSUlunatic
This conversation has been had on the OB a few times over the years. Basically, there are only a handful of people standing in the way of actual progress being made. Until someone nuts up and starts disregarding all of the political BS, nothing significant will happen
Eta: The master plan was/is actually really good. There are just people in the way of implementing even the most basic things
Eta: The master plan was/is actually really good. There are just people in the way of implementing even the most basic things
This post was edited on 6/18/16 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 6/18/16 at 5:28 pm to LSUlunatic
I'm a bit ignorant to the whole process but why wouldn't dredging from the gulf and depositing that back into the marsh work? Much like the Saudis built those islands off their coast.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 5:32 pm to SippyCup
Because it's way too big of a project and there is nothing to hold any dredging sediments from eroding back into the water.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 5:56 pm to Sparkplug#1
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and there is nothing to hold any dredging sediments from eroding back into the water.
What held it initially?
Posted on 6/18/16 at 6:00 pm to LSUlunatic
Get rid of the levees and let the river do its job.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 6:00 pm to Sparkplug#1
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Because it's way too big of a project and there is nothing to hold any dredging sediments from eroding back into the water.
Years ago there was a plan to join old tires together and put them on the coast to stop erosion. They were also going to put concrete that had been broken up in demolition projects out there.
This was supposed to build barriers from waves and storms coming in and keep the land from washing away, along with holding sand and silt to create new land. Does anybody know if any of this ever happened?
If so, did it do any good?
Posted on 6/18/16 at 6:16 pm to Cosmo
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It has nothing to do with rising seas levels
The beaches to our east arent losing land
Its all about 100 years of the LA coast being deprived of MS River silt.
Coastal erosion and sea level rise are 2 separate but inter-related problems. A 10 foot sea level rise, for example, with zero coastal erosion would be a huge problem.
This post was edited on 6/18/16 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 6/18/16 at 6:19 pm to LSUlunatic
Meh. Things change. Provided change is slow enough people will adjust to the new normal.
I imagine shrimping will get tougher but if it takes 30 years to get there it'll be fine.
I imagine shrimping will get tougher but if it takes 30 years to get there it'll be fine.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 6:35 pm to northshorebamaman
A hot day doesn't prove it either but by all means we should cripple the economy based on computer models of people, some of whom are Proven liars.
Sure do seem to be a lot of liberals who get rich off it though
Sure do seem to be a lot of liberals who get rich off it though
Posted on 6/18/16 at 7:12 pm to LSUlunatic
Tailgate on the beach, then walk into Tiger Stadium. Profit
Posted on 6/18/16 at 7:21 pm to gthog61
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A hot day doesn't prove it either but by all means we should cripple the economy based on computer models of people, some of whom are Proven liars.
One hot day doesn't prove it, but long term trends showing increases in temperature worldwide certainly do. And let's not forget some changes in animal migration patterns or behaviors...or timing of plant flowering and whatnot. No doubt climate change is a hoax...
But we should trust the person whose bottom line is affected by potential changes? Makes sense.
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Sure do seem to be a lot of liberals who get rich off it though
And the conservatives and corporations touting the "business as usual" approach aren't getting rich?
This post was edited on 6/18/16 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 6/18/16 at 7:22 pm to meeple
I cannot imagine the number of threads a bridge that long is going to create...
Posted on 6/18/16 at 7:27 pm to Ed Osteen
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It amazes me that there are still people who don't believe in climate change
You would have to have your head so far up your arse. It's crazy.
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