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State Farm declares 105 Kia, Hyundai models ‘ineligible’ for new insurance in Louisiana

Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:44 am
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6205 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:44 am
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NEW ORLEANS — Starting on Jan. 25, State Farm Insurance agents in Louisiana are no longer doing business with owners of 105 Kia and Hyundai models that have been blacklisted because they are vulnerable to theft, employees told WWL-TV.

The employees say they were sent a chart of models and years that are included in the restriction. It reads: “Kia and Hyundai models and years with an ‘x’ below will be ineligible unless the sales associate has verified the presence of a passive engine immobilizer.”


The list includes:

2015-2021 Hyundai Accent
2015-2021 Hyundai Elantra
2015-2021 Hyundai Kona
2015-2021 Hyundai Santa Fe
2015-2021 Hyundai Tuscon
2015-2021 Hyundai Veloster
2015-2021 Kia Forte
2015-2021 Kia Optima (4-door and hybrid models)
2015-2021 Kia Rio
2015-2021 Kia Sedona
2015-2021 Kia Sorento
2015-2021 Kia Soul
2015-2021 Kia Sportage

Two State Farm employees told WWL-TV that the restrictions apply in Georgia, Louisiana, Oregon, Washington, and Pennsylvania. The restrictions do not apply to current policyholders, only to drivers who are looking for new policies.

The Louisiana Department of Insurance said it has not been notified of the restriction.

"The LDI has not received anything from Progressive, State Farm, or other insurer regarding this, and we have no reason to believe we are on that list," a spokesperson for the department said.

A spokesperson for State Farm's corporate office confirmed that the company had stopped accepting new customer applications in some states, but would not confirm whether Louisiana was included on that list.

“State Farm has temporarily stopped accepting new customer applications in some states for certain model years and trim levels of Hyundai and Kia vehicles because theft losses for these vehicles have increased dramatically. This is a serious problem impacting our customers and the entire auto insurance industry," a statement from the company wrote.


Some Hyundai and Kia cars and SUVs are missing a “key” anti-theft device, and thieves know. An insurance industry group says these cars are stolen at nearly twice the rate of the rest of the auto industry because their keys lack computer chips for theft “immobilizer” systems.

The thefts apparently started in the Milwaukee area two years ago and spread to multiple Midwest cities and as far away as Colorado and New Mexico after instructional videos appeared on social media.


The Highway Loss Data Institute, a unit of the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, found that Hyundais and Kias without immobilizers had a vehicle theft claim rate of 2.18 per 1,000 insured vehicle years. The rest of the industry combined had a rate of 1.21. An insured vehicle year is equal to one vehicle insured for one year.

Chip keys, which started to show up in the 1990s, communicate with another chip in the ignition switch. If they match, the engines will start. If they don’t match, a thief can’t start the engine.

In the 2015 model year, immobilizers were standard on 96% of other manufacturers’ models, the institute said. But they were standard on only 26% of Hyundai and Kia models. The carmakers haven’t explained their decision to not include immobilizers on some models.

Videos show thieves prying the ignition cover off the Hyundai and Kia vehicles, then using a screwdriver or USB cable to start them and drive away.

All 2022 Kias got immobilizers either at the start of or during the model year. Hyundai said all models produced after Nov. 1, 2021 have immobilizers as standard equipment.

To help prevent theft, owners should roll up windows, lock doors and take the key or fob with them, the National Insurance Crime Bureau says. They should park in well-lighted areas or a garage. If they have to park outdoors, owners should consider installing motion-sensor lights.

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Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13388 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:45 am to
Used car market for those models just collapsed.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30495 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:47 am to
maybe now we'll start putting car thieves back in prison.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38481 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:49 am to
Aren't other states doing the same?
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3030 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:51 am to
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This post was edited on 2/18/23 at 8:32 am
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14459 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:53 am to
How the shite do you start a vehicle with a USB cable?
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19256 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:57 am to
We bought one of these for my teenager 2015-2021 Hyundai Elantra.

It has the push button door opener, someone tried to steal it one night, they damaged the button.

It's the type where you can keep the key fob in your pocket and press the button.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36012 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:57 am to
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How the shite do you start a vehicle with a USB cable


Doesn't have to be a USB cable, it just happens to fit the slot perfectly.

From what I saw, you basically just have to get behind the key ignition by removing it, then you slide the USB or flat head screwdriver in the slot and crank her up.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30739 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:58 am to
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restrictions apply in Georgia, Louisiana, Oregon, Washington, and Pennsylvania


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The thefts apparently started in the Milwaukee area two years ago and spread to multiple Midwest cities and as far away as Colorado and New Mexico


Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37057 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:59 am to
I was wondering why those two car companies were having so many thefts lately.

I wonder how much the companies saved here.

Cheap Koreans.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8766 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:59 am to
It’s going to happen in every state and all the big carriers will follow suit until it’s fixed
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13865 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:05 am to
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Hyundai and Kia are facing a host of class action lawsuits across various states in the United States due to the ease at which many of their vehicles can be stolen.


Thefts of certain Hyundai and Kia models produced from 2011 to 2021 have soared in the wake of social media challenges and the rise of the ‘Kia Boys,’ offering easy-to-follow instructional videos on how to steal vehicles. Vehicles that are particularly vulnerable are those with a traditional mechanical key and lacking an engine immobilizer.

Eager to see just how easy it is to steal one of the affected Hyundai and Kia models, Donut Media borrowed an Elantra and set about stealing it. As it turns out, it is shockingly simple.

Read Also: Hyundai Starts Selling Third-Party Security Kit To Slow Rampant Thefts In The U.S.

The first thing you have to do is pop off the plastic cover directly behind the steering wheel. This can be done by removing two screws but if you yank hard enough, the plastic clips break and the cover can be pulled off without a screwdriver. Once that’s done, you can easily access the ignition cylinder and proceed to push in a little pin, separating it into two pieces.

Remove the first piece where you would ordinarily insert a key and you are left with a cylinder that has a little piece of exposed metal. Jam the end of a USB cable onto that piece of metal and you’re done. All that’s left to do is turn the USB cable as if it was a key and the car will start straight up.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4876 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:13 am to
As if owning a Kia/Hyundai was bad enough...
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
48919 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:44 am to
I’m assuming that you are grandfathered in if you are already a customer with one of these cars?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:44 am to
Why did they not have some kind of interlock feature like every other car?
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
5296 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:48 am to
Kia and Hyundai are pieces of junk. Disposable cars.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68516 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:50 am to
Insurance is such a scam.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68516 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:52 am to
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How the shite do you start a vehicle with a USB cable?


shite, i dont even need the cable, just push start on my phone.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68097 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:53 am to
Get The Club
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25339 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:53 am to
How the hell are these cars not being recalled?
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