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re: Should Golfers be called athletes?

Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:46 am to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:46 am to
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Gymnast are athletic and they compete....they are competitors...not necessarily athletes.

They are definitely athletes... it's just not a sport.
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:48 am to
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there isn't a score involved in either


There is often as much or much more money involved in a large business negotiation or important trial than in a poker game.

No score?

The dude that negotiated selling that app to FB for $3B. No score involved there?

The dude that wins a massive patent infringement suit for a company. No score there?

Business men, lawyers and poker players - not athletes.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:48 am to
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quote: Gymnasts don't directly compete against each other, they compete against the obstacles. Not a sport? Gymnast are athletic and they compete....they are competitors...not necessarily athletes.
now u talking semantics. If the "event" they "play in" involves athletic movements, they are an athlete
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:50 am to
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They are definitely athletes... it's just not a sport.


What about diving? Definitely athletes, but there are judges involved. Does that mean it's not a sport?

What about track and field? Usain Bolt - no doubt an athlete. Track has to be a sport right?

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:51 am to
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What about track and field

Bruce Jenner was a badass bitch!
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:51 am to
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What about diving? Definitely athletes, but there are judges involved. Does that mean it's not a sport?

Not a sport.

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What about track and field? Usain Bolt - no doubt an athlete. Track has to be a sport right?

Starting to slide into a grayer area, but I'd say it's a sport since they are all running simultaneously.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:53 am to
LINK


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Various activities were graded on 10 components of athleticism: endurance, strength, power, speed, agility, flexibility, nerve, durability, hand-eye coordination and analytic aptitude. Boxing ranked first, followed by hockey, football and basketball. Golf ranked -- take a deep breath -- 51st out of the 60 sports, just behind table tennis and horse racing. It did, however, place just ahead of cheerleading and roller-skating, with fishing finishing last.





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"Golf is like sex: You don't have to be an athlete to do it. And you don't have to be good at it to enjoy it.''
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 9:55 am
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:53 am to
I'll throw a chink in the "have to directly compete against someone to be a sport" argument. If usain bolt races tyson Gay side by side...sport. If they run separately & winner judged by time....competition?
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14509 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:56 am to
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Various activities were graded on 10 components of athleticism: endurance, strength, power, speed, agility, flexibility, nerve, durability, hand-eye coordination and analytic aptitude. Boxing ranked first, followed by hockey, football and basketball. Golf ranked -- take a deep breath -- 51st out of the 60 sports, just behind table tennis and horse racing. It did, however, place just ahead of cheerleading and roller-skating, with fishing finishing last.
so that settles it. It's a sport and has athletes. Just not very good ones.

Nope, nevermind, anything that says golf is more athletic than cheerleading is null and void
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:57 am to
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Should Golfers be called athletes?
lol
Do you know how many golfers are on TD that would like to think they are athletes?

Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5016 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:57 am to
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What about diving? Definitely athletes, but there are judges involved. Does that mean it's not a sport?


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Not a sport.


I guess you can call diving a competition, but I do view track as a sport. Although parts of it (hammer throw, discus) seem more like games.

The Olympic Games are called the Olympic Games for a reason though I guess. There are a lot of things I'd classify as games or competitions.

Golf being one of those, as well as darts and bowling.
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 10:00 am
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:58 am to
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anything that says golf is more athletic than cheerleading is null and void


I can confirm the athleticism of a few cheerleaders(female)
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:59 am to
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discus)

I was the city champion in the 8th grade, so I'm an athlete
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14509 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:00 am to
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quote:
Should Golfers be called athletes?
lol
Do you know how many golfers are on TD that would like to think they are athletes?


totally separate argument
Posted by DivotBreath
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:00 am to
Athletes are highly skilled at a some type of physical act that does not come natural to most people. Some of those skills are certainly more desirable and challenging than others, but trying to qualify the definition is pretty useless since there are so many exceptions that you cannot have a general definition.

350lb offensive lineman is not the same as a 230lb running back

NASCAR driver is not the same as a track and field runner

Weightlifter is not the same as a gymnast

Fencing, curling, archery, synchronized swimming, equestrian jumping are all Olympic sports

Trying to define an athlete is an excercise in futility. Instead, the argument should be one that ranks the skill set required, both physical and mental, for a sport.

Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:00 am to
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Do you know how many golfers are on TD that would like to think they are athletes?
I don't think playing golf makes you an athlete, but there are golfers that are definitely athletes.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14509 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:01 am to
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Athletes are highly skilled at a some type of physical act that does not come natural to most people. Some of those skills are certainly more desirable and challenging than others, but trying to qualify the definition is pretty useless since there are so many exceptions that you cannot have a general definition.

350lb offensive lineman is not the same as a 230lb running back

NASCAR driver is not the same as a track and field runner

Weightlifter is not the same as a gymnast

Fencing, curling, archery, synchronized swimming, equestrian jumping are all Olympic sports

Trying to define an athlete is an excercise in futility. Instead, the argument should be one that ranks the skill set required, both physical and mental, for a sport.


give this man a hand
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5016 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:01 am to
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I was the city champion in the 8th grade, so I'm an athlete




Is discus a sport?
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14509 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:02 am to
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quote:
anything that says golf is more athletic than cheerleading is null and void

I can confirm the athleticism of a few cheerleaders(female)
well played
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:02 am to
These people are more athletic



than these guys

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