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re: Serious questions about spending priorities at LSU.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:25 am to OneMoreTime
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:25 am to OneMoreTime
yep, the biggest financially tie they have is athletics pouring millions of dollars to support the academic side. The people that attack LSU athletics spending and cry that it should be spent on the academic side don't understand how things work.
I also agree that we have a problem with too many colleges in Louisiana but the ones that should be cut wont due to politics
I also agree that we have a problem with too many colleges in Louisiana but the ones that should be cut wont due to politics
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:26 am to Slippy
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That's more or less what I'm getting at. People care more about athletics. They just do
So what's the problem? Athletics at LSU improving and making more money only means positive things for the University itself.
You must be a nerd or something
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:28 am to heartbreakTiger
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I also agree that we have a problem with too many colleges in Louisiana but the ones that should be cut wont due to politics
Exactly. Instead of supporting a flagship university wholeheartedly, we send money to half-arse universities who graduate students just to maintain funding.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to More beer please
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So what's the problem? Athletics at LSU improving and making more money only means positive things for the University itself.
You must be a nerd or something
No, he just doesn't understand people's spending priorities.
When someone has disposable income, they usually like to spend it on entertainment. Not a whole lot of return on your dollar to be entertained by history lectures.
But football? Hell, that will give a huge return. Especially if the team wins alot.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to heartbreakTiger
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The people that attack LSU athletics spending and cry that it should be spent on the academic side don't understand how things work.
Sure I do. I've given money to TAF for 18 years, and have been a season ticket holder for 23. I know they are separate entities. But the money comes from somewhere. And it is going to some things and not others.
I think a lot of people spend a lot of money on LSU sports, and to them, that means they love LSU.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to Slippy
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Do you care that there are academic buildings on campus with the ceilings caving in, that can be fully renovated for $15 million
So you're an art student.
Listen up you dirty hippy, and put down the kool.
They have already approved your building. It was approved and plans were ready BEFORE you fricking clowns had your stupid little march recently.
The fact you blithering tarts have no concept of which you speak is even more depressing than the drivel you produce.
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Do things like faculty salaries even make a blip on your radar screen?
what about them?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to pointdog33
Or the others that have some of the worst graduation rates/dropout rates imaginable
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to Srbtiger06
Have you seen all the new buildings and renovations being done on campus buildings?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to magildachunks
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Why did we need a new Business school? CEBA isn't bad. Money would have been better spent rehabbing that.
Derp
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:30 am to magildachunks
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We may have too many people going through engineering. That program used to weed people out through attrition. Now it seems like everybody graduating is an engineer of some sort.
Petroleum Engineering is HUGE at LSU. That's the reason for the increasing Engineering numbers.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:30 am to Slippy
The things that will and are makings LSU money are what they will spend it on.
Ex: buisness, engineer, ag, sports
What exactly is the point of keeping the art dept?
Ex: buisness, engineer, ag, sports
What exactly is the point of keeping the art dept?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:31 am to Slippy
-I think LSU is not aggressive enough in raising funds to build their academic endowment and they don't have enough freedom to raise tuition and fees. I'm disgusted with their lack of focus on building their academics endowment as of late.
- I think more students- especially freshmen- should live on campus. That's not going to happen until much more is spent improving the campus housing options- especially engineering and science residential colleges.
- I think that athletics contribute greatly to the academic side at LSU and keeps alumni engaged for decades after graduation. If a $90 million stadium expansion enhances the cash cow, then it's probably worth it.
- I think it's unlikely that my children will attend LSU because my career has taken me out of state permanently, so I don't see myself as having a major stake in the school anymore.
- I think more students- especially freshmen- should live on campus. That's not going to happen until much more is spent improving the campus housing options- especially engineering and science residential colleges.
- I think that athletics contribute greatly to the academic side at LSU and keeps alumni engaged for decades after graduation. If a $90 million stadium expansion enhances the cash cow, then it's probably worth it.
- I think it's unlikely that my children will attend LSU because my career has taken me out of state permanently, so I don't see myself as having a major stake in the school anymore.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:31 am to Slippy
quote:Nah, i don't really see it as nuts. The athletic side of LSU connects with more people than the academic side. People that didn't go to LSU will donate to the athletic side because it is their connection to LSU. This is a larger group of people than alums that will donate to both or just academics.
Do you think it's nuts that our athletic department can collect so many more "private donations" than the university itself?
Sure, at the end it comes down to people's personal priorities.... where they want to put their dollars. That's more or less what I'm getting at. People care more about athletics. They just do.
Plus the academic programs that produce for LSU don't have much trouble getting what they need. In tough economic times sacrifices must be made. I would rather the majors that aren't producing go without or be cut. It is better to make sure that business, engineering and the like can function.
Overall though the LSU funding problem is a issue that is a state issue. LSU can't get a proper budget for a flagship because we have so many colleges that are taking money. We need to merge or drop some of them.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:31 am to Slippy
quote:So give up your tickets and donate that money to the academic side
I've given money to TAF for 18 years, and have been a season ticket holder for 23.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:31 am to More beer please
I would prefer the focus be on education and finding graduates jobs and internships more than sports.
Personally, if they could offer only programs that they knew you could get a job in, and actually help you get a job in by parterning with firms, I think that would make an amazing university.
Personally, if they could offer only programs that they knew you could get a job in, and actually help you get a job in by parterning with firms, I think that would make an amazing university.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:32 am to TigersSEC2010
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frick the art students. Give the science, business, and engineering students everything possible for them to succeed. If some dopehead art frick wants anything, tell him to make something of his life and then he can reap the benefits from the university
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:32 am to TDsngumbo
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Petroleum Engineering is HUGE at LSU. That's the reason for the increasin
I know that one is big. Went to school with a few people from Georgia who got instate tuition for the petroleum engineer major because it wasn't offered anywhere in Georgia.
Just seems like everybody you run into these days is an engineer.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:33 am to Slippy
too much waste for me to be concerned with budget problems
someone find that link that lists all the positions at lsu and we'll go through them and see what can be eliminated....wtf do some of these people even do?
someone find that link that lists all the positions at lsu and we'll go through them and see what can be eliminated....wtf do some of these people even do?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:35 am to magildachunks
The program still weeds people out. Haven't really heard of anyone not getting a job after graduation either, so the demand is still there for engineering graduates.
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