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re: Serious questions about spending priorities at LSU.

Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:25 am to
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:25 am to
yep, the biggest financially tie they have is athletics pouring millions of dollars to support the academic side. The people that attack LSU athletics spending and cry that it should be spent on the academic side don't understand how things work.

I also agree that we have a problem with too many colleges in Louisiana but the ones that should be cut wont due to politics
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45050 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:26 am to
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That's more or less what I'm getting at. People care more about athletics. They just do


So what's the problem? Athletics at LSU improving and making more money only means positive things for the University itself.

You must be a nerd or something
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:28 am to
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I also agree that we have a problem with too many colleges in Louisiana but the ones that should be cut wont due to politics


Exactly. Instead of supporting a flagship university wholeheartedly, we send money to half-arse universities who graduate students just to maintain funding.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to
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So what's the problem? Athletics at LSU improving and making more money only means positive things for the University itself.

You must be a nerd or something



No, he just doesn't understand people's spending priorities.

When someone has disposable income, they usually like to spend it on entertainment. Not a whole lot of return on your dollar to be entertained by history lectures.

But football? Hell, that will give a huge return. Especially if the team wins alot.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6578 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to
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The people that attack LSU athletics spending and cry that it should be spent on the academic side don't understand how things work.


Sure I do. I've given money to TAF for 18 years, and have been a season ticket holder for 23. I know they are separate entities. But the money comes from somewhere. And it is going to some things and not others.

I think a lot of people spend a lot of money on LSU sports, and to them, that means they love LSU.

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to
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Do you care that there are academic buildings on campus with the ceilings caving in, that can be fully renovated for $15 million


So you're an art student.

Listen up you dirty hippy, and put down the kool.

They have already approved your building. It was approved and plans were ready BEFORE you fricking clowns had your stupid little march recently.

The fact you blithering tarts have no concept of which you speak is even more depressing than the drivel you produce.

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Do things like faculty salaries even make a blip on your radar screen?


what about them?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45050 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to
Or the others that have some of the worst graduation rates/dropout rates imaginable
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42507 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to
Have you seen all the new buildings and renovations being done on campus buildings?

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:29 am to
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Why did we need a new Business school? CEBA isn't bad. Money would have been better spent rehabbing that.


Derp
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41578 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:30 am to
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We may have too many people going through engineering. That program used to weed people out through attrition. Now it seems like everybody graduating is an engineer of some sort.

Petroleum Engineering is HUGE at LSU. That's the reason for the increasing Engineering numbers.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10437 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:30 am to
The things that will and are makings LSU money are what they will spend it on.
Ex: buisness, engineer, ag, sports

What exactly is the point of keeping the art dept?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25342 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:31 am to
-I think LSU is not aggressive enough in raising funds to build their academic endowment and they don't have enough freedom to raise tuition and fees. I'm disgusted with their lack of focus on building their academics endowment as of late.

- I think more students- especially freshmen- should live on campus. That's not going to happen until much more is spent improving the campus housing options- especially engineering and science residential colleges.

- I think that athletics contribute greatly to the academic side at LSU and keeps alumni engaged for decades after graduation. If a $90 million stadium expansion enhances the cash cow, then it's probably worth it.

- I think it's unlikely that my children will attend LSU because my career has taken me out of state permanently, so I don't see myself as having a major stake in the school anymore.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 10:33 am
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:31 am to
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Do you think it's nuts that our athletic department can collect so many more "private donations" than the university itself?

Sure, at the end it comes down to people's personal priorities.... where they want to put their dollars. That's more or less what I'm getting at. People care more about athletics. They just do.

Nah, i don't really see it as nuts. The athletic side of LSU connects with more people than the academic side. People that didn't go to LSU will donate to the athletic side because it is their connection to LSU. This is a larger group of people than alums that will donate to both or just academics.

Plus the academic programs that produce for LSU don't have much trouble getting what they need. In tough economic times sacrifices must be made. I would rather the majors that aren't producing go without or be cut. It is better to make sure that business, engineering and the like can function.

Overall though the LSU funding problem is a issue that is a state issue. LSU can't get a proper budget for a flagship because we have so many colleges that are taking money. We need to merge or drop some of them.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:31 am to
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I've given money to TAF for 18 years, and have been a season ticket holder for 23.
So give up your tickets and donate that money to the academic side
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4244 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:31 am to
I would prefer the focus be on education and finding graduates jobs and internships more than sports.

Personally, if they could offer only programs that they knew you could get a job in, and actually help you get a job in by parterning with firms, I think that would make an amazing university.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3248 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:32 am to
This will not go well
Posted by Colonel Angus
Member since Aug 2007
1625 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:32 am to
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frick the art students. Give the science, business, and engineering students everything possible for them to succeed. If some dopehead art frick wants anything, tell him to make something of his life and then he can reap the benefits from the university


Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Petroleum Engineering is HUGE at LSU. That's the reason for the increasin



I know that one is big. Went to school with a few people from Georgia who got instate tuition for the petroleum engineer major because it wasn't offered anywhere in Georgia.

Just seems like everybody you run into these days is an engineer.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97632 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:33 am to
too much waste for me to be concerned with budget problems

someone find that link that lists all the positions at lsu and we'll go through them and see what can be eliminated....wtf do some of these people even do?
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:35 am to
The program still weeds people out. Haven't really heard of anyone not getting a job after graduation either, so the demand is still there for engineering graduates.
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