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re: Senate Committee in LA passes Fred Mills Marijuana Bill
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:16 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:16 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Maybe then they will slowly relax the regulation and eventually get us on the path to legalization, where we should be
The reason I think a pharmacist is sponsoring this bill is that if it passes weed will be completely controlled by pharmacies.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:18 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Yes. From what little I've read about this bill it's almost not worth passing if your interest is legalization of recreational use or even liberal medical prescribing like in Cali.
I'm torn on this subject. I predict that if this bill gets passed then the legal status of weed in LA will never change again in our lifetime. It will therefore be just as illegal to smoke weed as it is to take prescribed narcotics that aren't yours.
Does the bill say no other bills regarding this subject can pass? Don't think thats possible.
This is a ridiculous notion. 20 years from now AT THE VERY LEAST fully legalized medicinal marijuana will be everywhere in this country similar to what was in California 10 years ago.
ETA:
Look at the national change in the last 5 years alone. A majority of the country is in favor on FULL legalization at this point according to just about every poll. The thing stopping the South is the old politicians. 20 years they'll mostly be gone.
The momentum is gaining, big time. Amendments to this bill aren't hard to write.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:22 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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I'm wondering what medical "ailment" you have that makes you and you so happy for this bill
I use it for insomnia. I take one hit off a bowl about an hour or two before bed. Do you think something like Ambien would be safer????
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:26 pm to TheCaterpillar
I'm obviously talking about the argument that if anyone eventually pushes for complete legalization in LA them they are obviously just wanting to get high. If a bill passes allowing for very restricted prescription of a substance then you might as well just move weed from schedule 1 to schedule 2.
That's all this bill would do.
I'm on my phone so forgive me, but doesn't this bill try to restrict the medical conditions that doctors can prescribe THC for? Is there any other pharmaceutical that has that type of restriction?
That's all this bill would do.
I'm on my phone so forgive me, but doesn't this bill try to restrict the medical conditions that doctors can prescribe THC for? Is there any other pharmaceutical that has that type of restriction?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:32 pm to LesMiles BFF
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I'm on my phone so forgive me, but doesn't this bill try to restrict the medical conditions that doctors can prescribe THC for? Is there any other pharmaceutical that has that type of restriction?
Not that I know of.
Its better than nothing though is my point. It shows a chink in their archaic armor put up to "defend children from evil drugs!"
And just because they allow a little bit, doesn't mean there isn't room to put an addendum on later to relieve restrictions.
Also, when full legalization is presented and that "jsut to get high" argument is brought up, someone needs to honestly answer with "who cares if people just want to get high and how does that affect you?"
Because there aren't good answers. It isn't going to ruin families. It isn't going to trap people in the web of addiction. It won't be a gateway to other things if legal. It won't increase crime (opposite actually).
I am stepping off my soap box now, I have to get some work done
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:34 pm to LesMiles BFF
How does it provide for manufacturing and transport? It's all well and good to allow use of a finished product, but it's useless if manufacturing and transport are still illegal.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:36 pm to Bard
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How does it provide for manufacturing and transport? It's all well and good to allow use of a finished product, but it's useless if manufacturing and transport are still illegal.
That is essentially decriminalization. They don't frick with users but will come down hard on growers, which is pretty retarded.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:39 pm to Bard
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How does it provide for manufacturing and transport? It's all well and good to allow use of a finished product, but it's useless if manufacturing and transport are still illegal.
The cops are behind it basically, so I am sure they can work out safe transport to dispensaries from out of state grow operations or have restricted grow operations.
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Mills attributed his first legislative victory regarding the medical marijuana bill to collaboration with the Louisiana Sheriff's Association. By negotiating with the lobby group, Mills was able to get his bill in a posture that allowed the group to take a neutral stance on it. The organization carries lots of weight with legislators because their constituents -- especially those in more rural areas -- view their sheriffs as the leading pubic safety advocate in their communities. The bill died in the same committee last year by a vote of 6-2, after the sheriff's group testified against it.
While the sheriffs' group's official stance on the bill was neutral, the organization's executive director Mike Ranatza sat next to Mills and spoke of the good he thought it could do, if tightly constrained and properly regulated.
"The move our sheriffs made was to be compassionate, to provide relief and hopefully not harm anyone, Ranatza said, of the organization's decision not to oppose the bill.
Also, just the change the last couple of years mentioned in this paragraph is huge. People are slowly waking up.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:41 pm to TheCaterpillar
The tobacco lobbyists will soon put the heat on legalization nationwide IMO.
That will REALLY get the ball rolling in places outside the Northwest. Big Tobacco stands to be the real financial winner of legalization. They have the infrastructure already in place and have bought THOUSANDS of marijuana patents over the years.
That will REALLY get the ball rolling in places outside the Northwest. Big Tobacco stands to be the real financial winner of legalization. They have the infrastructure already in place and have bought THOUSANDS of marijuana patents over the years.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:42 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Every violent crime rate went DOWN in Colorado and they earned over 70 million I believe in tax revenue.
This is key. Maybe if we legalized we can stop fricking cutting education.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:44 pm to TheCaterpillar
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The tobacco lobbyists will soon put the heat on legalization nationwide IMO.
That will REALLY get the ball rolling in places outside the Northwest. Big Tobacco stands to be the real financial winner of legalization. They have the infrastructure already in place and have bought THOUSANDS of marijuana patents over the years.
A family friend of mine has invested several millions of dollars in Philip Morris. He thinks that, once the financial limitations (ie banking insitutitons) are lifted for legal operations, then Big Tobacco will swoop the frick in and earn an unbelievable amount of money. He expects his $7MM to turn into $70MM, but he is also a drunk old bastard.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 3:55 pm to TheCaterpillar
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867 per 100,000 and its not close
Its embarrassing for our state to be #1 on this list, much less by such a large margin.
I thought that number was inflated because we take prisoners from other states and house them for $$$$
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:02 pm to HempHead
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A family friend of mine has invested several millions of dollars in Philip Morris. He thinks that, once the financial limitations (ie banking insitutitons) are lifted for legal operations, then Big Tobacco will swoop the frick in and earn an unbelievable amount of money. He expects his $7MM to turn into $70MM, but he is also a drunk old bastard.
He'll make money no doubt, maybe even double or triple it.
7m won't turn into 70m though
Big Marijuana will replace Big Tobacco. Its a less harmful and non-addictive alternative that has edible options and legitimate medicinal purpose for some people.
Its going to make a lot of people millionaires in this country. But you're right, once the banks are comfortable backing it, its going to be a goldrush.
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How old is your family member who invested? Because if he is 70 and a heavy drinker, he might not be alive to see any returns
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:08 pm to TheCaterpillar
This is the existing medical marijuana law that would essentially be revived by this bill. Amazing this was passed back in 1991. Obviously it's still very restrictive but better than nothing IMO. It still laughable that the state could acknowledged pot's medical value while keeping it Sched I.
RS 40:1046. Prescription of marijuana for therapeutic use; rules and regulations; secretary of health and hospitals
A. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Part, a physician licensed to practice medicine in this state and who is also registered to prescribe Schedule I substances with the Drug Enforcement Administration may prescribe marijuana, tetrahydrocannabinols, or a chemical derivative of tetrahydrocannabinols for therapeutic use by patients clinically diagnosed as suffering from glaucoma, symptoms resulting from the administration of chemotherapy cancer treatment, and spastic quadriplegia in accordance with rules and regulations promulgated by the secretary of health and hospitals and in accordance with FDA and DEA administrative guidelines for procurement of the controlled substance from the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
B. The secretary of health and hospitals, by January 1, 1992, shall promulgate rules and regulations, authorizing physicians licensed to practice in this state to prescribe marijuana for therapeutic use by patients as described in Subsection A of this Section.
Acts 1991, No. 874, §1; Acts 2006, No. 676, §3, eff. July 1, 2006.
RS 40:1046. Prescription of marijuana for therapeutic use; rules and regulations; secretary of health and hospitals
A. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Part, a physician licensed to practice medicine in this state and who is also registered to prescribe Schedule I substances with the Drug Enforcement Administration may prescribe marijuana, tetrahydrocannabinols, or a chemical derivative of tetrahydrocannabinols for therapeutic use by patients clinically diagnosed as suffering from glaucoma, symptoms resulting from the administration of chemotherapy cancer treatment, and spastic quadriplegia in accordance with rules and regulations promulgated by the secretary of health and hospitals and in accordance with FDA and DEA administrative guidelines for procurement of the controlled substance from the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
B. The secretary of health and hospitals, by January 1, 1992, shall promulgate rules and regulations, authorizing physicians licensed to practice in this state to prescribe marijuana for therapeutic use by patients as described in Subsection A of this Section.
Acts 1991, No. 874, §1; Acts 2006, No. 676, §3, eff. July 1, 2006.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:10 pm to HempHead
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family friend of mine has invested several millions of dollars in Philip Morris.
Subtle brag...you have rich friends
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:10 pm to biglego
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It still laughable that the state could acknowledged pot's medical value while keeping it Sched I.
If the fed changed, I am betting states wouldn't be far behind.
But according to Washington its more dangerous than Meth.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
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How old is your family member who invested? Because if he is 70 and a heavy drinker, he might not be alive to see any returns
Not a family member, just the father of a close friend. Retardedly old money, they've lived in the same house since 1824 so they really don't need any more. He is about 52, I think. Sombitch smokes cheap-arse menthol cigarettes (Salem?), drinks bourbon and Miller Lite like they were going out of business, and blasts through an eighth of weed a day. And he has a medical practice.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:12 pm to biglego
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Subtle brag...you have rich friends
Doesn't every white person from the South?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:13 pm to HempHead
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an eighth of weed a day
Damn son, that's plowing through some green...both money and weed.
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Retardedly old money, they've lived in the same house since 1824 so they really don't need any more.
When more of these kind of people get behind Marijuana reform, it'll happen. Big time, old money, Southern backers.
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Basically Big Tobacco needs to permeate it's goals throughout rural South.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 4:14 pm
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