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re: Scientists: Aliens may be calling Earth
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:43 pm to AZTarheeel
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:43 pm to AZTarheeel
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Is it pretty much a given that if you believe in evolution that you believe in aliens?
No. Certainly related. But not a given.
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:46 pm to FreddieMac
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Highly unlikely.
That's kind of the things we look for. We wouldn't be able to detect a Type 0 Civilization like ours unless they're very close (like 70 light years or less), but we should be able to detect Types 1-3.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:48 pm to dagrippa
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Why is it terrifying? Serious q.
Well if we're alone.... then out of trillions of planets and stars, why are we the only ones?
If we are alone, then its an almost mathmatical certainty there were others before us, and they all killed themselves off, which would make it a statistical certainty that we will kill ourselves off.
If we aren't.... well, you've seen enough movies to know why this is the case.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:49 pm to Rounder1
That's the issue. We are too primitive to even comprehend the science behind what would make it possible. Interstellar pond scum.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:49 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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i am sure there are other life forms but not as high intelligence as us. I think we are the anomaly.
Then you have absolutely no grasp of the scale of the universe. Also this is the definition of narcissism.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:52 pm to OMLandshark
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OMLandshark
Aww frick, here you go. Is there any fricking subject you are not an "absolute" expert on, you condescending little shite?
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:53 pm to mpar98
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Aliens may be calling earth
Well let that shite go to voicemail.
Don't be telegraphing our location to a species who will enslave us with one advanced neuro-kinetic bomb
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:54 pm to Rounder1
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I am confused by this as a possibility.
How would that work?
Would it impact gravity on the planet?
What about orbits?
would the encapsulating structure rotate?
How would it not be pulled into the star it was surrounding?
would it impact other planet/moons within the solar system but beyond the exterior of the structure?
wouldn't the structure itself take a tremendous pounding from asteroids and space debris that would normally burn up entering our atmosphere?
Not trying to be a smartass...those are just some legitmate questions off the top of my head.
Dyson Sphere
The Dyson Sphere wouldn't exactly be solid, but more like a gigantic network of satellites orbiting a star/system that could siphon off a significant portion of its energy and manipulate said energy to its will.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:59 pm to OMLandshark
(I am not replying to Ole Miss Sharkbaw here because I am in agreeance with him - I just hate going back to a post to actually reply to once I reach the end of the the thread.)
A lot of you OTers need to read this. And yes it's a long read but I got faith that some of you baws might learn a thing or two about something that baffles the brightest of us - The Fermi Paradox
A lot of you OTers need to read this. And yes it's a long read but I got faith that some of you baws might learn a thing or two about something that baffles the brightest of us - The Fermi Paradox
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:13 pm to Hot Carl
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Aww frick, here you go. Is there any fricking subject you are not an "absolute" expert on, you condescending little shite?
I'm not an expert on this, you fricking a-hole, but I have looked in on the subject and I think space is thing I'm most fascinated by. If you think with certainty that we're the anomaly when we've seen less than a trillionth of a percent of our universe, then its narcissistic. It's like a sponge at the deepest part of the ocean thinking its the superior life form on Earth, when it hasn't seen crap.
Go frick yourself.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:13 pm to OMLandshark
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Then you have absolutely no grasp of the scale of the universe
A couple fun facts for him to put it in perspective
-to scale: if the sun was a grain of sand at the 50 yard line in Tiger Stadium, Pluto's orbit would extend to the 46 yard line, and our closest neighboring star system Alpha Centauri would be in Gonzales.
-if every star in the Milky Way was a grain of sand lined up touching each other it could wrap the around planet earth over 4x at the equator.
-there are much larger galaxies than the Milky Way
-you could fit over 500,000 milky ways between the Milky Way and Andromeda, the next closest galaxy
-there are an estimated 225 billion galaxies in the observable universe (the portion that's light has reached us).
That's enough that if every galaxy was a a grain of sand lined up touching each other (don't forget the actual distances between them) it would wrap around the earth 36+ times at the equator
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:16 pm to AlonsoWDC
That was one of the best articles on the paradox I've read.
I though am a fan of the matrix theory. Traveling from planet to planet to colonize is eventually too expensive and civilizations instead reach a point where computers are so advanced that they can upload their consciousness into a perfect world where they are for all purposes, gods. What would be the point of a "real" physical body when you are the god of your own reality.
Although this does bring up more.. Morbid possibilities
I though am a fan of the matrix theory. Traveling from planet to planet to colonize is eventually too expensive and civilizations instead reach a point where computers are so advanced that they can upload their consciousness into a perfect world where they are for all purposes, gods. What would be the point of a "real" physical body when you are the god of your own reality.
Although this does bring up more.. Morbid possibilities
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:34 pm to SundayFunday
TIme to build a wall.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:51 pm to Lsuchs
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A couple fun facts for him to put it in perspective
-to scale: if the sun was a grain of sand at the 50 yard line in Tiger Stadium, Pluto's orbit would extend to the 46 yard line, and our closest neighboring star system Alpha Centauri would be in Gonzales.
-if every star in the Milky Way was a grain of sand lined up touching each other it could wrap the around planet earth over 4x at the equator.
-there are much larger galaxies than the Milky Way
-you could fit over 500,000 milky ways between the Milky Way and Andromeda, the next closest galaxy
-there are an estimated 225 billion galaxies in the observable universe (the portion that's light has reached us).
That's enough that if every galaxy was a a grain of sand lined up touching each other (don't forget the actual distances between them) it would wrap around the earth 36+ times at the equator
To further illustrate I have no conception of numbers of this scale:
- There are estimated to be 10^80 protons in the observable universe. (Powers of 10 are powerful!)
- A 1080p TV can display this many different images = (2 ^ 24) ^ (1920 * 1080) ~ (2 ^ 24) ^ 2,000,000 = 2 ^ 48,000,000 ~ 10 ^ 16,000,000
Posted on 8/30/16 at 10:55 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
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Ace Midnight,
I'm calling you out right now & if you don't answer this question then I'm going to assume that you just made an assanine statement & you can't answer it...
Chill. He was simply rephrasing an Arthur C. Clarke quote. How could you not understand?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:02 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
Yeah there are more possible moves in a game of chess, played with 32 pieces on an 8x8 board, than there are number of estimated atoms in the known universe.
Big numbers are impossibly large.
Big numbers are impossibly large.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:04 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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- A 1080p TV can display this many different images = (2 ^ 24) ^ (1920 * 1080) ~ (2 ^ 24) ^ 2,000,000 = 2 ^ 48,000,000 ~ 10 ^ 16,000,000
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:06 pm to mpar98
Just remember that we could have PROOF and half the planet would call bullshite
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:06 pm to mpar98
shite might get out of hand with this answering.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:08 pm to OMLandshark
Doubt we could detect a type 3. That would be like an ant understanding its sitting next to an interstate highway.
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