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re: Question to OT about an old flame

Posted on 7/28/15 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Her not liking my current girlfriend really doesnt make sense. Like she wont even acknowledge her.


How old are you? Do you know nothing of women?

You're her backup. Her safety net. Her friend zone. He "well there's always ______".

If you seem happy and stable in this relationship with a new girl then you are fricking up her plans. So she simultaneously hates you and the girl while being jealous of both of you but she can't tell her current fiance or anyone else.

She doesn't want you to be happy unless it's with her and she doesn't want you because she chose another guy so she'd rather keep you around and keep you unhappy and at her feet while never actually giving you the time of day.

If all of that sounded insane that's because it is. It is insane. Women are insane.

Enjoy it. Being the new girl around, flirt with her and completely ignore the old flame. Just watch what happens.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5137 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 2:41 pm to
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they are now (8 years later) engaged.

This is all I have to read. My advice: stay away and move on.
Posted by NWTS_
calabas
Member since Aug 2014
58 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 2:51 pm to
My thing is, how could this go on for 8 years? How could I be friend zoned when I dont really care about getting back with her. Are you saying she still has feelings for me?

I had trouble starting up my start up a couple of years ago, and she was the one to tell me to not give up on my dreams.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

I moved on, I really did. For my buddy, she is a catch. For me, I have had a more success with the ladies and have been involved with much more attractive women (including her better looking friends) than he has so losing her wasnt something I couldnt rebound from, per se

Jesus, you're shallow.

But in a good way.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76340 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 2:58 pm to
I hope your start up fails and you get a flat tire today
Posted by NWTS_
calabas
Member since Aug 2014
58 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 3:00 pm to
Its what helped me move on. I was young at the time, 19 or 20, so I did what many young men with a broken heart do-- go drown in some p*****. It got my confidence back and probably made me a better alpha
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65712 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

We sparsely spoke during the summer, but then she went aboard with one of my really good friends.

"sparsely spoke"?
Huh?

"went aboard"?
Aboard? Really?

This is from the OP's first paragraph, I couldn't get past this and no pics.

Admit you're a Beta or friendzoner or have the gheys and get on with your life.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20384 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 3:11 pm to
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The one that got away from me was a Jewish Girl from New York that wasnt/couldnt date or marry a Methodist/Christian (myself) boy. Everytime we see each other now its just a rush of emotions. She has told many people that she wishes we would have dated. She was the heartbreak that pulls at me the most, mainly because of things I couldnt control (im not jewish)


Move past that. I was engaged to a Greek Orthodox girl. Madly in love with each other. Mother drove a wedge between us because I wasn't GO. 8 years later I am happily married with a beautiful daughter. The other girl eventually got married to a GO that the parents found for her. Don't waste your time trying to win a fight based on cultural differences. You will always lose. Some people are just week and will not go against their culture regardless of how stupid it sounds.
Posted by NWTS_
calabas
Member since Aug 2014
58 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 3:19 pm to
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Move past that. I was engaged to a Greek Orthodox girl. Madly in love with each other. Mother drove a wedge between us because I wasn't GO. 8 years later I am happily married with a beautiful daughter. The other girl eventually got married to a GO that the parents found for her. Don't waste your time trying to win a fight based on cultural differences. You will always lose. Some people are just week and will not go against their culture regardless of how stupid it sounds


Would it have worked out between yall? it seems like you still have some strongly kept emotions towards her
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20384 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 3:46 pm to
Some, but I am better off without her. Would never win over the mother no matter what I did. Life would have been miserable. If the girl isn't strong enough to stand up for herself and you then best to cut and run. It sucks but that is the way it is.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47386 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Is there a possibility that there is something still there (I have moved on and have a great little deal now and dont wish to go back in time)?


Then don't. Doesn't matter. She's engaged.

quote:

Has this happened to anyone else?


I'm sure it has many times.

quote:

Does she just consider me to be a good friend?


Don't know. You could ask her.

quote:

I feel like had college not let out for the summer that year, things may have been different, at least for the rest of our college experience together.


Maybe so, but it didn't happen. I'm not convinced you've moved on. You need to, though. Even if she is interested, you need to stay the hell away from her in any way other than as a friend to her because she's your good friend's wife to be.

I'm not sure why you even need to ask these questions. It's over between the two of you and it needs to stay that way. Move on and stop trying to analyze her behavior such that you believe she's lamenting that you two never went farther in your relationship than you did. She chose to hook up with your good friend. She wasn't thinking of you at the time.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166319 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 3:52 pm to
she wants you to want her.
she needs you to need her.
she loves you to love her.
she begs you to beg her.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5160 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:07 pm to
Knock the bottom out, not once but 3 or 4 times....and to be fair, tell your buddy soon after as he did to you. If he has any issues, your reply should be "payback muddafricka"
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:10 pm to
I can't comprehend if the OP is in a relationship atm or not. If you aren't OP then you should definitely frick her a few times then tell your "friend" about. After that never speak to either of them again. If you are in a relationship that you think is worth keeping just skip to never talking to them again.
Posted by carlsoda
B Rah
Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

I moved on, I really did. For my buddy, she is a catch.


You can't get over she chose him over you. That is quite clear otherwise you wouldn't have these thoughts. You think you are all around better than your buddy even though he is your buddy. I get it, we have all been there on both sides probably.
quote:

I have had a more success with the ladies and have been involved with much more attractive women (including her better looking friends)


You say this and probably believe it but it doesn't make sense that she chose him over you. You don't have what they have which from the sound of it is a deep meaningful relationship. She has had a lot of time to try things out with you, in fact she probably didn't date or get engaged to your buddy without thought... Maybe she wonders about you but that is it bro, nothing more. She can be your friend, girls can but guys always read more into it.

Move on, be her friend but that's all it is bro.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 4:26 pm
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:28 pm to
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It got my confidence back and probably made me a better alpha

Yeah a lot of guys who are secure with themselves start threads asking if a girl they hooked up with twice nearly a decade ago still likes them even though the girl is engaged to someone else. Get over yourself. And stop coveting your buddy's soon-to-be wife. That shite's in the Bible somewhere.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 4:30 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155677 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:39 pm to
i had a girl who i considered 'the one' recently tell me she 'sees me everyday' and she feels she 'belongs with me'...she is married to a soldier and they have a child FWIW

my first reaction was some shock, then i was kinda like it's not fair for you to say that to me, but before i responded i realized i really didn't care and just told her it was nice to hear that stuff but i've moved on. (even tho between you, me and the rest of us OT ballers a piece of me will always love her)


in your case i think she sees you as a catch and doesn't want anyone else to have you. bitches be crazy
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39142 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:02 pm to
People who don't care say I don't care, or nothing. People who do care say I don't really care. There is that small holdback. You add the "really" thing to almost every post. You care. Admit it to yourself, if not the OT.

You care enough to start a thread about it. That is because you care. You think of the ex when you are nailing the current GF.

Your ex is better than your new GF. If the new GF was better you would not contemplate upheaving 4 people's lives. You are at some point going to make a move but wish she would make it for you. This is not alpha.

I will say again, since you are too scared to make a move, ask her to go get drunk when you know he is out of town. If she says yes, you are in. If she says no, you never were and all your thoughts of the attention she gives you are delusional.

Either way, you need to get rid of the current GF as she is clearly not your ultimate choice. You will probably stay with her since she tolerates you and that would be the beta thing to do.

And last, your buddy was nailing your GF for a while before he told you about it. He wanted to make sure there was something there before he told you about it. Don't feel obligated to call him right after you nut the first time. Ultimately you do want to call him though.

Good luck.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61271 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

but she is flirtous by nature


I find this to be a really bad characteristic for women.

Also, you need to stop where you're at. The girl seems like a ticking time bomb anyways IMO. Just a gut feeling from what Im reading anyways.
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