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re: Professional jobs and the legalization of marijuana

Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27085 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:09 pm to
There hasn't been any need until recently to have a test for a sort of pot breathalyzer. Demand is now there and I think we'll see supply follow. I know they've talked about several in development.

I don't think I should be punished for taking a hit at home after work just like I shouldn't be punished for having a beer at home after work. I don't go to work drunk and if pot were legal I wouldn't go to work high.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:10 pm to
Any job that regularly tests you is gay unless they suspect you, and if they suspect you are using drugs they should just fire you if they care. I can understand a test before you are employed but thats it.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:13 pm to
I'll probably always be subject to random tests
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Will weed be treated like alcohol, where only being high at work isn't accepted?


This is 100% the way it should be, but it's more complicated to tell since it's in your system longer.
Posted by YogaPants
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4704 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:15 pm to
Of course for larger companies it depends on the CEO and/or board of directors. As the legalization is changing around the country, companies are changing.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5151 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Any job that regularly tests you is gay unless they suspect you, and if they suspect you are using drugs they should just fire you if they care. I can understand a test before you are employed but thats it.




They test because their insurance companies mandate or give lower rates, not because they like gay cock...
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Most professionals, aside from maybe doctors, are not drug tested anyway.

It's pretty common in the engineering & computer science world. At my company we only test when you're hired. But just about every other engineer or CS that I know around here gets randoms. It's standard practice for any defense contractor, same goes for civil engineering firms. Good friend of mine in Metarie works for a small eng. firm and he gets randoms.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5509 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:22 pm to
The problem lies more in how it's treated in the face of OSHA/ADA/etc.
Posted by LSU_2012
Lafayette,La
Member since Feb 2012
1770 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:34 pm to
Not sure why these fools can go out and get hammered, but they can't smoke a blunt and chill out. They should continue to drug test but not GAF if its for marijuana
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:37 pm to
That's why I said employeement at will
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Most professionals, aside from maybe doctors, are not drug tested anyway.


anybody associated with O&G is drug tested

engineers, consultants, scientists, geologists, etc
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7402 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:40 pm to
Yeah doesn't o&g industry have a safe workplace law requiring testing.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

They test because their insurance companies mandate or give lower rates, not because they like gay cock...



Ya maybe for blue collar. In the white collar world being able to retain any talent you want is way more important than a small increase in insurance costs.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5151 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Ya maybe for blue collar. In the white collar world being able to retain any talent you want is way more important than a small increase in insurance costs.



You'd be surprised. I'd bet a dollar to a dime that the CEO of Exxon mobile is drug tested regularly.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35748 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

think it's just gonna take some law suits that make it to the biggest courts. there will be plenty of people that will get hemmed up due to legal weed and pee tests. 
They will take legal action against it


Oregon SSC already has ruled in favor of employers, April 15 2010.

It's going to take better testing before anything changes.

Eta...
quote:

Related question: can someone who is legally prescribed marijuana be fired for failing a drug test?



The case I spoke of is the situation you mentioned.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 10:10 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Not sure why these fools can go out and get hammered, but they can't smoke a blunt and chill out.

You can't be hammered at work either. The problem is that there's no easy way (yet) to test if you're stoned right now like there is for alcohol.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14958 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

There would have to be a test to determine if someone was high at the point of an accident. Not just if they smoked on Saturday night and got in a wreck on Monday morning.



I disagree to a point. IQ is, of course, a poor measurement of cognition and reaction times, but consistent marijuana usage is tied to a (recoverable) ~10 point drop in IQ. Further studying, such as cognition and reaction times, has not been studied particularly closely. Thus, given THC's propensity to "hug" neurons in the brain and make them fire slower, it's not unreasonable to think that smoking on Saturday night may indeed affect your ability to function on Monday morning, particularly if you smoke Friday, Saturday, and Sunday before headed back on Monday. Now, that said, that's something that needs to be put to trial and tested once it's clear/legal to do such forms of testing. There are merits to both sides of the argument ("You can't prove it affects me" vs "You aren't functioning at full mental capacity") that does need to be looked into further before making definitive statements about whether spot-testing vs more sensitive residual testing is sufficient for determining how "impaired" a driver is.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45568 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:10 pm to
Even if it becomes legal on the federal level I won't be able to smoke with my current company
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
2970 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:13 pm to
It is tested by levels in the urine or whatever the test sample is from. Like parts per million for example. I'm sure it'll go by that kind of standard.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4244 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:15 pm to
OK that it! I am in need of weed for a medical condition. Where they heck am I supposed to get it? Yall have read my posts, I have no chance on my own.

What's the procedure?
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