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re: People who won’t use self checkouts….

Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Willie Stroker
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:23 pm to
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How is it benefitting the customer? You don't pay a cheaper price for using it and they aren't paying you to do the work.

Employees and their benefits cost a lot of money. The labor required to manage unreliable people also carries a high cost. Customers pay those costs in the price of the goods.

Anything we can do to help keep the cost of labor down will help all customers of that store afford more goods for their families AND it sends an accurate market signal to laborers that other jobs may be better alternatives for them.

By minimizing the number of entry level jobs that can be automated, the store is free to hire more humans for tasks that are desirable, but not as cost effective.

Thus ends the first lesson of Economics 101.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:30 pm to
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By minimizing the number of entry level jobs that can be automated


Self checkout doesn’t automate anything…
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:40 pm to
In the WalMart world I’ll use them because I would prefer not to do more than necessary to keep WalMart in business….the worse the experience for everyone the quicker they take the KMart dive. I do everything I can to avoid WalMart. We have a Food Lion close to the house and their prices are probably 5% higher than WalMart….but they have high school kids running cash registers, bagging groceries, stocking shelves, cleaning….the typical high school job. It’s worth 5% to me to help create a sense of working in those kids….they will benefit greatly from the experience. WalMart is the cheapest but the cost to society is way more expensive. Kroger and Publix is not much better but I will go to either before going to WalMart. Not everyone can afford a 5% tax but for those who can it is money well spent.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:45 pm to
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HEB has self checkout but their check out lanes are world class. They always have a scanner and a bagger and you fly through.


HEB is the best. They also have employees, prices are comparable to Walmart and selection is like Sams and Costco were when they had a selection. They aren’t in our area but they are infinitely better than any competition plus they pay people.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:49 pm to
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Small # of items - self checkout.
Large # of items - regular checkout.


This also depends on the lines at each.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:52 pm to
If it was about technology and convenience you’d just scan the item with your phone, settle up when done with Apple Pay or whatever and leave. It’s about eliminating customer service and dumbasses feel like they’re some kind of Bill Gates cause they can scan groceries like a minimum wage employee. It is very telling that theft is acceptable but paying a person is out of the question
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:07 pm to
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Employees and their benefits cost a lot of money. The labor required to manage unreliable people also carries a high cost. Customers pay those costs in the price of the goods.

Anything we can do to help keep the cost of labor down will help all customers of that store afford more goods for their families AND it sends an accurate market signal to laborers that other jobs may be better alternatives for them.

By minimizing the number of entry level jobs that can be automated, the store is free to hire more humans for tasks that are desirable, but not as cost effective.

Thus ends the first lesson of Economics 101.




all of this is great in theory.....but more and more self-check outs are popping up and the prices of goods keep rising.

Your Economics 101 lesson doesn't take into consideration corporate greed. Just because they're saving labor costs doesn't automatically mean it's passed onto the customer.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:08 pm to
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Your Economics 101 lesson doesn't take into consideration corporate greed. Just because they're saving labor costs doesn't automatically mean it's passed onto the customer


In a free market, someone would undercut them to steal their business..we don’t have a free market
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:12 pm to
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How is it benefitting the customer? You don't pay a cheaper price for using it and they aren't paying you to do the work.


It’s benefitting me because I can do absolutely everything better and faster than any employee there. I wish fast food places would let me go back there and make my own food. I’d be in and out in half time time and it would always be right.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:12 pm to
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stuck in the 20th century?
What's wrong with that?
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:14 pm to
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In a free market, someone would undercut them to steal their business..we don’t have a free market


yup.

Also for the OP....I'm usually not in any sort of major hurry. So I don't mind waiting in a reasonable line and letting someone else properly bag my shite. And contrary to the idiots in this thread...there absolute ARE people lining up for jobs in grocery stores. It's still an entry-level job for HS kids as well as income for older people who need a PT job for supplemental money.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:14 pm to
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It’s benefitting me because I can do absolutely everything better and faster than any employee there.


That's amazing. How many medals have you been awarded for this outstanding achievement?
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6512 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:26 pm to
Hey all I know is I’ve never wanted a burger at home and accidentally made a fish sandwich instead.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5310 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:28 pm to
The ones at Albertsons are the absolute worst. They give you about one square feet of space to put your groceries after scanning and bagging. God forbid you need to move a bag to your basket to make room because an alarm goes off and the damn FBI descend upon you. I’ll do it with a handful of groceries but prefer to go to the regular checkout lanes if I have a basket full and especially if I have alcohol. I hate waiting on them to come type in my birthdate and remove the anti theft device from my Titos.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:30 pm to
I fricking hate it when people go to self check out with a full cart. Self checkout should be for 15-20 items max.

Also, there's nothing that is kryptonite to a middle aged woman more than self checkout
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5310 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:33 pm to
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I fricking hate it when people go to self check out with a full cart. Self checkout should be for 15-20 items max


I agree but I’ve also been forced to go with a rather full cart because there was only 1 or 2 lanes open and they each had 4-5 people in line. I don’t mind waiting a few minutes but I’m not waiting 15-20 minutes, at least, in a line.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:34 pm to
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Perhaps the prices on the food increased less than they would have over the course of the rolling out period.

The price comparison is not vs what the prices were before the lanes were implemented, it is to what theprices would be now.


Sounds like you have some research to do.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:35 pm to
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Needless to say, that put me in a horrible mood the rest of the day.



Lol why?
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
2002 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:37 pm to
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Most people I notice who talk shite about them don't use them because they are arrogant pricks that think they are above it.

Which is stupid. I love self checkout. I know I can do it quickly and it minimizes my time in the store.



Minimizes time in store? Your time is minimized in the store as you sit there like a fool waiting for the employee to come over because your bananas, or whatever, wouldn't scan?

I don't think it's arrogant to say that if they're paying employees to be there, that it's very fair for them to check out my stuff and allow me, the paying customer, to avoid the hassle.

Weird flex there.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:39 pm to
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Don’t they realize these low end jobs are better off being automated?


Maybe you should ask the low end employees who find themselves unemployed what they think.
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