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Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:25 am to SabiDojo
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Meh, I enjoy what I do, but I'd do it for the money alone
Word, bro. Word.
I think this is something that bothers some lawyers. From the outset, we're told that we're joining something that isn't a job, or even a profession, but constitutes some permanent life change that provides a whole slew of responsibilities and assets.
But to me, it's always been just a job. A client is just a client. I understand my responsibilities, and I understand why it can certainly seems like a lifestyle sometimes, but I'm not a lawyer above all else like some embrace.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:29 am to bluemoons
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I don't think it's so much that the profession breeds unhappiness as it is that the profession attracts people who tend to be unhappy.
I 'm pretty sure several studies have shown it does indeed breed unhappiness. Plenty of happy optimistic students go in and later studies show them to be depressed and pessimistic.
It's the nature of law school to breed pessimists as a pessimistic approach to life is an attribute for a lawyer--assuming and anticipating the worst.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:30 am to udtiger
I wouldn't quit being a lawyer, but I definitely would like to move in-house somewhere. Better hours, quality of life.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:35 am to bluemoons
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I've worked in several fields involving things I loved only to grow to hate those things (fishing, hunting, golf).
Great point. Anything you have to do five days a week, 8 hours a day, you're eventually going to get sick of. I sit in this office and daydream about fishing. But I couldn't imagine having to fish every single day of my life, even in bad weather, whether I wanted to or not. I'd probably daydream of being in an air conditioned office.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:39 am to Volt
seriously? I'm glad the medical field has painted the picture that lawyers are the only reason medical folks have to work w/ their hands tied. It has nothing to do w/ rogue doctors, money grubbing pharmacuetical companies, or insurance companies increasing premiums to make money. it's just money grubbing lawyers when 95% of them don't even practice med mal. Morris Bart doesn't even do med mal. pffffssssstttt.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:53 am to Cold Cous Cous
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Anything you have to do five days a week, 8 hours a day, you're eventually going to get sick of.
5 days a week, 8 hours a day! HA!
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:56 am to McLemore
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I have finally found something that fits. I don't go to an office. I can do my stuff anywhere. I'm working on other creative endeavors and toward residual income. But I pinch myself every day and thank God for the opportunity. It wasn't just luck, but a lot of people who are smarter and harder-working than I aren't this fortunate.
I'm essentially in the same spot you were...if you don't mind me asking, what did you find that "fits"?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 12:20 pm to LoveThatMoney
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5 days a week, 8 hours a day! HA!
Truth; most lawyers are in at 9 out at 3, and every Thursday hit the links. And that's for a minimum $200K. All you college seniors out there, don't forget to take the LSAT!
Posted on 8/20/14 at 12:25 pm to udtiger
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Tired of dealing with idiots.
I have some sad news for you. This doesn't go away when you change careers
Posted on 8/20/14 at 12:32 pm to Burlee
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what did you find that "fits"?
i have a handful of business clients and i have gotten away from litigation. close personal contacts, a stake in the businesses, and I manage my own slowly recovering real estate portfolio and some intellectual property/publishing stuff.
Most of my work comes from one major client now who treats me like an insider rather than begrudgingly dealing with and paying me as an attorney.
It's a good mix and gives me flexibility to travel and not be married to a dead-end career.
you?
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 12:36 pm to Volt
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As a person that has worked in the medical field for 14 years, and will be practicing as an NP in less than 2 months, I think most lawyers need to hang it up. Patients often ask "why" something is being done or ordered, and I've said "Morris Bart runs this ER". Most of what I do now and for the rest of my career is being dictated by the potential for being sued. So I have to treat patients based on that instead of treating them based on my education and training. It disgusts me
I hope you never take care of myself or a loved one of mine with that type of attitude.
There are approximately 850,000 physicians in the United States. Last year, there were 9,205 payments made in medical malpractice cases across the United States. Although it's factually incorrect, we'll assume that those are all individual doctors that got sued - 9,205 different people. We know this isn't the case because sometimes medical malpractice cases are against nurses, sometimes they're against hospitals, etc. But to help your misplaced feelings, lets assume that the 9,205 number represents 9,205 individual doctors. That means that 1.08% of the profession had a malpractice claim paid on their behalf last year. That means that 840,000+, or 99%, doctors did not.
In Louisiana last year, there were 253 claims paid. That means Louisiana doctors/hospitals/nurses were responsible for about 2.7% of the malpractice claims paid. There are 4.6 million folks in Louisiana. Who knows how many total interactions with doctors or physicians, but when you account for folks that never go to the hospital and people that go once a week, you're probably looking at around 10 million+ interactions between citizens and the medical field. And only 253 claims paid.
And you think lawyers and med mal claims are rampant, why again? Who feeds that line? Oh, the insurance industry? Great move listening to those folks as they're clearly uninterested parties. Oh wait...
The vast majority of doctors are good folks who do a good job and never get sued. But they're not perfect and some of them aren't even good folks. Those people don't deserve any more protection than lawyers do in malpractice cases, or architects in malpractice cases, or insurance agents in errors and omissions cases, or anyone else that is open to suit due to the services they provide.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 12:41 pm to reservoir_dawg
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reservoir_dawg
#stud
Posted on 8/20/14 at 12:55 pm to reservoir_dawg
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reservoir_dawg
I believe the only response to this is:
boom
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:19 pm to udtiger
quote:Never. Not ever. I love what I do, and I hope I'm doing it until I'm 80.
Ever think about hanging it up?
Of course, I practice an arcane law based on a federal statute that is over 100 years old. Probably less than 0.001% of practicing attorneys have ever heard of it.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:20 pm to Salviati
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Of course, I practice an arcane law based on a federal statute that is over 100 years old. Probably less than 0.001% of practicing attorneys have ever heard of it
Dude, don't leave us hanging.
What is it?Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:21 pm to McLemore
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you?
trying to find my "fit" right now.
ETA: oh, and...
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reservoir_dawg
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:24 pm to Burlee
Graduating in December, if anyone has any suggestions outside of joining a firm I am all ears
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:25 pm to SabiDojo
Yeah, right.
I don't need any competition.
I get to manage litigation in every state west of the Mississippi and half a dozen on the east side too.
My client is the best, and all I do is win.
Everybody is happy, happy, happy.
I don't need any competition.
I get to manage litigation in every state west of the Mississippi and half a dozen on the east side too.
My client is the best, and all I do is win.
Everybody is happy, happy, happy.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:27 pm to udtiger
Every day.
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