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re: Officers arrest 10-year-old autistic child but refused to tell him or her mother why
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:09 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:09 pm to Darth_Vader
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That is just fricking stupid. Felony? He's 10 years old.
I worked in a children's psych unit several years ago and saw an 11 year old boy break a co-worker's jaw with a chair when he flipped his shite. And he was a kid that was mainstreamed in a public school and special education (EBD- Emotional Behavioral Disorder) who exhibited similar behaviors in the classroom and had to be restrained regularly.
People have no idea some of the ECE kids people are dealing with in public schools these days.
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:10 pm to arseinclarse
He could be a little bi-polar or some other behavior issues that are from a mental condition. If the kid does have some mental issues, I hope they get him worked out.
If the kid is just a butthead, he needs to meet a belt.
If the kid is just a butthead, he needs to meet a belt.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:12 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Part of that birth certificate and getting that SSN signs your parental rights over to the state.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:13 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I find it hard to believe that happened but arresting an autistic child (depending on where they fall at the spectrum) seems excessive depending on what crime was committed.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:15 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Yeah, they just give any old kid a paraprofessional
It's pretty commonplace for schools to have a para per class or at least a portion by grade. He wasn't assigned a para, rather his class or grade had one.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:16 pm to tigerinthebueche
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a third-degree felony.
For a 10 year old?
I might be missing a large part of this story, but a 10 year old kicking a school employee is not a felony.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:18 pm to BluegrassBelle
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worked in a children's psych unit several years ago and saw an 11 year old boy break a co-worker's jaw with a chair when he flipped his shite. And he was a kid that was mainstreamed in a public school and special education (EBD- Emotional Behavioral Disorder) who exhibited similar behaviors in the classroom and had to be restrained regularly.
Restraining special Ed kids is one thing, and obviously have no problem with. Charging them as felons as if they are cognizent adults is another.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:19 pm to NYNolaguy1
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For a 10 year old?
A 10 year old special ed kid getting expelled means there is a whole lot the mom isn't divulging and the school can't. I guess I am in the minority understanding simple concepts that i believed to be common sense, FFS.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:21 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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not buying the kid is autistic. I'm sure his mother is just a lazy piece of shite who uses it as an excuse
I had a mother bring her child in to my office one day because he was having a cough and cold. In her documentation of his medical history she wrote he had autism. I didn't treat him for autism and asked nothing other than who his pediatric physician was and who had diagnosed him with autism. She couldn't remember. I documented she couldn't remember next to the line where she wrote he was autistic. 6 months later I got a subpoena from the local court where she was filing for disability for the child based on autism and listed me as the physician who diagnosed him as autistic. I went to the deposition and both side's attorneys looked at the medical records and said basically "You are kidding me right? We've waisted all this time?" I was never asked back and never went to court.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:22 pm to AwesomeSauce
The mother handled that extremely well, which is odd to me. Seemed she knew something like that was going to happen.
A mother who brings her kid to school for a test and all the sudden the kid is being arrested?? I think a unsuspecting mother would go apeshit.
A mother who brings her kid to school for a test and all the sudden the kid is being arrested?? I think a unsuspecting mother would go apeshit.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:23 pm to LSUTANGERINE
If this boy has actually been diagnosed as autistic by a real doctor, it seems the school district is going to have some real problems. Public schools have certain Special Education mandates that they are required to abide to. It can suck for school districts with limited funding. They end up spending a disproportionate amount of dollars on relatively few students. But if my memory serves me correctly, they are obligated to establish a learning plan/program specific to the child's needs.
If the school district is just trying to run this kid off to save some budget dollars, Mom ought to reach out to Autism Speaks or one of the other autism advocacy groups and get a lawyer to bury their asses.
If the school district is just trying to run this kid off to save some budget dollars, Mom ought to reach out to Autism Speaks or one of the other autism advocacy groups and get a lawyer to bury their asses.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:25 pm to AwesomeSauce
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A 10 year old special ed kid getting expelled means there is a whole lot the mom isn't divulging and the school can't. I guess I am in the minority understanding simple concepts that i believed to be common sense, FFS.
I think I found the problem.
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Prosecutor Ashley Albright said he is meeting, Wednesday afternoon, with the paraprofessional who pressed charges. Albright said the State Attorney's Office will take the boy's special needs into consideration when determining how to proceed with the case and added that juveniles are treated differently by the justice system anyway.
So a paraprofessional can't handle a student, the student kicks him and he files felony charges against the boy.
I'd imagine that most special Ed teachers are supposed to be trained for situations like this.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:28 pm to White Roach
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the school district is just trying to run this kid off to save some budget dollars, Mom ought to reach out to Autism Speaks or one of the other autism advocacy groups and get a lawyer to bury their asses.
It seems headed that way.
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Scott Badesch, president of the Autism Society of America, said the organization has been in contact with Haygood to help provide support services and legal counsel.
"It appears the school's responses are beyond wrong and evil," he said. "It is a tremendous failure by two allegedly responsible institutions - the police and the school."
Badesch said the Autism Society is examining the case to determine whether it should ask the Justice Department and the Education Department to investigate any wrongdoing.
Similar cases have been seen in other states. The Education Department's Office of Civil Rights is investigating one in Virginia, following a complaint that Richmond public schools unfairly punish black students and students with disabilities more harshly than others.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:29 pm to NYNolaguy1
And yes it is a felon...but the kid will still be handled as a juvenile and the record will be sealed.
Its not like the kid will be listed as a felon for the rest of his life.
Its not like the kid will be listed as a felon for the rest of his life.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:30 pm to LSUTANGERINE
OP's title is very misleading. The boy and his mother both knew (and had been told) why he was being arrested, before mom pressed play on her phone's video recorder.
This is a non-story, unless you want to make a thread about parents not disciplining their kids anymore. Or about mental illness being a free pass to do whatever you want.
This is a non-story, unless you want to make a thread about parents not disciplining their kids anymore. Or about mental illness being a free pass to do whatever you want.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:32 pm to theenemy
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Its not like the kid will be listed as a felon for the rest of his life.
I mean the kid is autistic. I'd like to think the court has better uses of its time than chasing misbehaving retarded kids.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:33 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Okay, the kid said he wouldn't have done it if he knew he would get arrested.. Then the mother is saying she didn't know why he was being arrested and claiming they wouldn't tell her.
If the kid was just sitting there and police came and arrested him for no reason and the mother had no idea what was going on, she would have not been as calm as she was.
I know there are people whose autism is more obvious than others. Other than that, I don't know much about it, but that kid didn't seem to have obvious signs of autism.
It seems like the mother over-dramatized the situation.
If the kid was just sitting there and police came and arrested him for no reason and the mother had no idea what was going on, she would have not been as calm as she was.
I know there are people whose autism is more obvious than others. Other than that, I don't know much about it, but that kid didn't seem to have obvious signs of autism.
It seems like the mother over-dramatized the situation.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:41 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I'd like to think the court has better uses of its time than chasing misbehaving retarded kids.
The court and officers have to follow the law and procedure though.
You are putting the cart before the horse.
Sounds like it was shitty that charges were pressed and hopefully the law is applied with common sense but procedures still need to be followed.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:52 pm to theenemy
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The court and officers have to follow the law and procedure though.
To be clear I understand that. I am blaming the teacher for filing felony (
) charges against the kid, and the officer who took the teacher seriously enough to find probable cause ( ). I don't blame the other officers for enforcing the warrant though.This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 4/21/17 at 4:07 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:And the school is a place for learning, not raising kids. My guess is that the kid was continuously causing disruption so this was a way to rid the class of an unruly student who prevented other kids from being afforded an opportunity to learn.
I mean the kid is autistic. I'd like to think the court has better uses of its time than chasing misbehaving retarded kids.
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