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re: Off Duty cops (NYPD) want to carry handguns into NFL stadiums
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:20 pm to brass2mouth
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:20 pm to brass2mouth
Yeah! Leave the carrying of the guns into stadiums to the criminals!
Oh, wait...
Seriously. I don't have a problem if this was the case before. The NFL it it's infinite wisdom decided to ban them without any incidents occurring.
Par for the course, I suppose.
Oh, wait...
Seriously. I don't have a problem if this was the case before. The NFL it it's infinite wisdom decided to ban them without any incidents occurring.
Par for the course, I suppose.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:23 pm to BruslyTiger
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Unless the NFL owns the stadium, they have no say in the matter.
you are naive if you don't think they have a say in the matter
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:24 pm to brass2mouth
No. They a a civilian when not wearing a uniform and they need to be treated as such.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:24 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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I would feel safer that if there was a threat trained people who could handle it would already be in the stadium.
I want to be clear, are you saying would would feel safer if off duty police were armed in NFL stadiums when they enter as regular fans?
For my money, that's a very strong no way. Not because they are police...though let's be honest, I do tend to think an off duty cop is FAR more likely to draw their weapon in a situation than a regular guy with a concealed carry license, but because I think it's a bad situation to mix the emotions and very real possibility of alcohol with not only firearms but the ABILITY to yank it out based on their authority got get involved. I'd rather them be FANS, and let the guys being paid to maintain security be responsible for that.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:25 pm to TigerBait1127
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you are naive if you don't think they have a say in the matter
They do have a say in the matter. Doesn't mean their rules will trump local and state laws.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:25 pm to JermStone
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Texas law trumps NFL
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Police officers often carry their firearms around the clock because of their oath to protect and serve the public on or off duty.
Apparently the LAPD motto is now an oath
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:27 pm to TigerBait1127
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A cop who is off duty should have the same rules as any other fan
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:32 pm to TigerBait1127
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A cop who is off duty should have the same rules as any other fan As a season ticket holder, frick no
All of this. There's really no reason for them to have one. If they aren't on duty they're just like every other person at the game.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:33 pm to brass2mouth
I don't necessarily think it's a bad idea but there is just too much potential for a terrible situation. What happens to the first cop that gets a picture taken of him drinking a beer with his sidearm visible? There's too much of a grey area to allow some to carry and others to not. Plus, the chances of needing a gun inside an NFL stadium are slim to none.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:37 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I don't think anyone should handle or carry a firearm if they plan on drinking, including cops.
However, if they are not getting drunk, then i am all for some extra security when masses of people congregate.
However, if they are not getting drunk, then i am all for some extra security when masses of people congregate.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:41 pm to brass2mouth
So what, they don't shoot enough citizens on duty and now want a better chance to get some off duty?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:45 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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Off Duty cops (NYPD) want to carry handguns into NFL stadiums
I don't think anyone should handle or carry a firearm if they plan on drinking, including cops.
However, if they are not getting drunk, then i am all for some extra security when masses of people congregate.
Problem is how do you monitor someone that is off duty?
Its just a bad idea to me. They still can't stop Baine
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:49 pm to brass2mouth
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I think a drunk with a gun is a recipe for disaster be it a regular trained citizen or an off duty cop
Off duty police officers are in violation of the law if they drink and carry just as you are.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:51 pm to JermStone
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The NFL says there are enough security personnel at stadiums to handle problems without needing armed off-duty police.
no, there are not Mr. Commisioner
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:52 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Problem is how do you monitor someone that is off duty?
You can't. I know there are potential risks, but I just wouldn't be terribly offended if they were allowed. I do tend to have a little more trust of police than the average poster it seems though.
ETA: if they are allowed to carry elsewhere where the possibility of alcohol consumption is present, why not in the NFL stadium?
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:54 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Like others have said, if a civilian that has a concealed carry license can't carry, neither should off-duty cops
What many of you fail to realize is that cops are allowed to carry anywhere off duty because those they have arrested don't care whether they are on or off duty when looking for payback. I am sure some of you will say that comeswith the job but I totally disagree. An officer should be allowed to protect himself from criminals he has arrested. If the officer wants to drink at the game he must leave his weapon a home as that is the way the law is written.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:56 pm to DanTiger
seems pretty reasonable to me. Also didn't really think of the retribution angle, very good point though.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:00 pm to brass2mouth
If the NFL wants to ban cc in their stadiums that's their biz and frick scumbag cops getting pref treatment...apparently they believe pigs are more equal than others.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:03 pm to cwill
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If the NFL wants to ban cc in their stadiums that's their biz and frick scumbag cops getting pref treatment...apparently they believe pigs are more equal than others.
The NFL does not own most of the stadiums, if any. Did you read what I posted above? Do you believe off duty cops have no right to protect themselves? In addition to low pay and long hours you would put them in a position where they are unable to protect a wife or child while out in public and someone they have arrested decides to get payback?
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:05 pm to DanTiger
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Do you believe off duty cops have no right to protect themselves?
If regular citizens aren't allowed to carry, then off duty cops, AKA citizens, can't carry either. Sorry.
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