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re: Not applying for your boss's job
Posted on 3/9/17 at 8:58 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
Posted on 3/9/17 at 8:58 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
If I'm a decision maker at your company that sounds awful. You don't want the promotion because it will be too much of a PIA for you. Whether or not its true, it comes off as I'm comfortable doing what I'm doing because its easy and I can leave at 5 everyday and not worry about it. I would never look at you again for advancement if I were a decision maker.
Not trying to be a dick, but if you don't have a legitimate excuse for not wanting more responsibility (like a young family that you want to be able to go home to at 5 every night) this comes off as a pretty bad and lazy look.
ETA: if this isn't the position for you I would at least express you are obviously interested in moving up the company, but this isn't the role for you. Just saying no too much of a PIA is not the right move.
Not trying to be a dick, but if you don't have a legitimate excuse for not wanting more responsibility (like a young family that you want to be able to go home to at 5 every night) this comes off as a pretty bad and lazy look.
ETA: if this isn't the position for you I would at least express you are obviously interested in moving up the company, but this isn't the role for you. Just saying no too much of a PIA is not the right move.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 9:02 am
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 8:58 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
Will your comfort level continue with a new boss?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:00 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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If I'm a decision maker at your company that sounds awful. You don't want the promotion because it will be too much of a PIA for you. Whether or not its true, it comes off as I'm comfortable doing what I'm doing because its easy and I can leave at 5 everyday and not worry about it. I would never look at you again for advancement if I were a decision maker.
Not trying to be a dick, but if you don't have a legitimate excuse for not wanting more responsibility (like a young family that you want to be able to go home to at 5 every night) this comes off as a pretty bad and lazy look.
This is another conversation, but this is what's wrong with the world today. We get 70-80 years to live, but if a dude wants to keep his stress level low and maximize his time out of the office to ACTUALLY live, he's seen as lazy.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:00 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
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I'm already a boss and my department runs smooth as can be. I only answer to 1 person and have all the freedom in the world that I want. No headaches, no on call 24 hours. And my salary allows me to live more than comfortably
This dude gets it. Money ain't everything. I've worked long hours at a shitty job before for a significant bump in pay (+40%). It was not even close to being worth it.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:02 am to LNCHBOX
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LNCHBOX
Get back in the women's underwear store room!!!
and to O.P.- at least apply, chances are they want you to apply and your boss has already put your name in a hat to reign supreme after him.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:03 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
More money more problems.... so bring the problems
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:03 am to gorillacoco
Considering my company is attached to my hip 24/7 due to the nature of the business, ill take that 40% bump all day everyday.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:04 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
Do you often find yourself saying things like: "wtf does he do that? He's dumb, I would have done this...We need to do this. Why don't we do that? So and so boss does this and they're better off."
If you do, then it's your time to saddle up and take charge. If not don't ever say that shite again.
If you do, then it's your time to saddle up and take charge. If not don't ever say that shite again.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:04 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
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He called me into his office this morning to tell me that if I have any interest in filling his position after he's gone, to send my resume to our Regional Supervisor.
Your boss is giving you the hook up and probably already talked with the regional supervisor about recommending you for the job and all you have to do is actually apply for the position. Obviously your boss valued you and is trying to help you get ahead. Opportunity like that doesn't come around often.
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Is it frowned upon if the "next in line" doesn't step up like this?
You just probably won't be considered in the future for any promotions within the company.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:04 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
If it's as considerable of a pay increase as you said you should be able to negotiate some of the terms based on your concerns. When you're in the promotion meeting and told something like "what we'd like is to do x, y, z" that's your opportunity to present how you could most efficiently and successfully fill the position. You're the proven asset in this instance, what would it take to be the most effective asset in the new capacity?
And don't feel bad for having concerns, sometimes ppl see how their superior manages and they know they'd do things different, so they're concerned that it'll be a struggle with the staff to change the status quo. I've dealt with this tbh.
And don't feel bad for having concerns, sometimes ppl see how their superior manages and they know they'd do things different, so they're concerned that it'll be a struggle with the staff to change the status quo. I've dealt with this tbh.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:04 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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decision maker at your company that sounds awful. You don't want the promotion because it will be too much of a PIA for you. Whether or not its true, it comes off as I'm comfortable doing what I'm doing because its easy and I can leave at 5 everyday and not worry about it. I would never look at you again for advancement if I were a decision maker.
This may be true, but if he really doesn't have any ladder-climbing ambitions, and his department works smoothly and makes money, who is going to remove the dude from the position he's in? A smart manager won't.
If he ever decides he wants to advance he'll have some work to do to get another opportunity. But some people just don't want the high stress jobs. It's not like they're going to fire him for it.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:06 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
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Is it frowned upon if the "next in line" doesn't step up like this?
Not always. If you are a great producer for the company, then management will be glad to keep you where you are happy. We love that. If you are good, that is.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:07 am to TH03
If you are happy with your job, hey, I get it. That said you should always look to advance yourself. The job is a PIA, look for a way to alleviate the problems. From the company's perspective why would I promote an employee next year if this year he said he didn't want this promotion because "its too hard."
Like I said, I understand your point of view. The least anyone should do is say this isn't the role that is right for me but when X opportunity presents itself I am interested. Not just no I don't want this promotion.
Like I said, I understand your point of view. The least anyone should do is say this isn't the role that is right for me but when X opportunity presents itself I am interested. Not just no I don't want this promotion.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:08 am to 50_Tiger
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Considering my company is attached to my hip 24/7 due to the nature of the business, ill take that 40% bump all day everyday.
Even if that means you really work 60 hours a wk instead of 40? And you live out of town during the week? To me my time and piece of mind was worth way more than the extra pay. I don't mind working overtime sometimes when we need to get something out the door, but I'll never take another job where it's an indefinite condition of the job.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:10 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
Jim did this on The Office. Dwight was then promoted.
Use this information to make your decision.
Use this information to make your decision.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:15 am to gorillacoco
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This dude gets it. Money ain't everything. I've worked long hours at a shitty job before for a significant bump in pay (+40%). It was not even close to being worth it.
I did the same thing and after about a month of it I was miserable to the point it affected my social life. I was working 10-12 hour days 5 days a week so the weekend was basically for rest & recovery. I had to give excuses to leave at 630 to play in my rec league when I had already been there from 730 and worked through lunch.
I ended up leaving for a position that paid about 20% less and the only time stress was they made me take a lunch and be out the door for 5pm. A few years later I am where I was when I left and am looking at another significant increase over the next 1-2 years as I grow into the company.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:16 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
Does all that still exist if they hire a douchebag to replace him as your boss?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:17 am to dcrews
I used to work out of town about 9 months of the year.
I used to chase money with the thought that I wanted it all.
Then I lost my dad, my grandmother, my brother and a close friend all within a year and a half.
Now working more than around 50 hours a week is not so important to me. Now I hunt and fish whenever I want and I get to spend more time with my family than ever.
I used to chase money with the thought that I wanted it all.
Then I lost my dad, my grandmother, my brother and a close friend all within a year and a half.
Now working more than around 50 hours a week is not so important to me. Now I hunt and fish whenever I want and I get to spend more time with my family than ever.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:23 am to SidewalkDawg
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Money over everything.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:41 am to AU_251
Is this where we've come to? I don't want to be a leader because "it's tough"? OP stinks of beta.
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