re: Normandy Church Terror: ISIS Slits Throat of Preist and Takes Nuns Hostage

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It's more about propping up the military and training domestic Armies. Do you not believe by not doing this, then the next cousin of ISIS will form?

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I don't question that some other terror org of ISIS will arise.

I do question whether or not the best solution is to have perpetual presence in the region, or instead, to snuff out the flames that arise from these vacuums efficiently and with extreme prejudice.

Of course, the latter would require ongoing competence and some degree of boldness from our government, and I'm not sure that is a safe bet. But this country is tired of seeing billions spent and young lives squandered - and for what? Stability that isn't there?

can I ask you for your solution? or do you agree with Darth's genocide approach?

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How many years and billions of dollars did we spend training those incompetent Iraqis just to have them hand over their land and US provided gear over to ISIS?

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Many would argue this is because we pulled out too early. (Idk the correct answer to this) I don't think it is something that can happen overnight, or will be cheap. But I also don't think we can call it a win if we eradicate ISIS while another form of ISIS pops up.

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Yeah I'd support a Kurdistan. It's pretty remarkable those people don't hate us now, they need sovereignty. Honestly the whole place should be carved into more logical borders and it could go a long way to getting it into shape.

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Those people have gone above and beyond to show their loyalty to us and we constantly leave them with their asses in the breeze. The most American loving person I think I've ever met was a Kurd.

With Turkey going down the path they currently are, I think it's about time for the UN to step up and give the Kurds what's rightfully theirs.

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There's a reason we didn't win Vietnam

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And that reason was that we didn't engage in total war and completely crush their will by leveling it. We assumed we could play "nice guy" and appeal to their sensible side by winning their hearts and minds through democracy.

We need to accept that most of the world is primitive and only respects the strong man. They don't want or understand self-determining democracy. You think they value the things you do. They don't. They are base animals.

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There's no simple solution except to GTFO of the ME and be cautious about importing refugees.

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I tend to agree with this. Darth's genocide mission would cause more bad than good IMHO.

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I do question whether or not the best solution is to have perpetual presence in the region, or instead, to snuff out the flames that arise from these vacuums efficiently and with extreme prejudice.

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I worry that this in and of itself would create more radicalized Muslims. Continually bombing countries results in civilians dying, which results in radicalization. Although a constant military presence would likely do the same thing.

frick, idk. They're always gonna want to kill us.

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I assume all the posters calling for WW3 will be on the front lines?

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The WW3 front lines are currently in Europe.

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Kill the leaders and it pops up in a new location with new a new name. There's no simple solution except to GTFO of the ME and be cautious about importing refugees. It will die out when the power structures in Middle East change and the money dries up, but that may be a while.

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The only way that will work is if in addition to us getting out of the Middle East, we likewise send back to the Middle East every Muslim man, woman, and child currently living in the west. Let them have their caliphate in the ME while we go on with our way of life in the West. are you willing to do this instead of bombing them into the Stone Age?