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re: NOLA City Council Debates UBER

Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:46 pm to
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it's not ethical business practice to charge 10x the fare as we have proof this has already happened.

if it's not ethical (which means too expensive), then people won't pay and the model will die

why not let the market sort it out?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:47 pm to
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dude charging 1,500 for a fricking hotel room is not supply and demand.

no it's the textbook definition of supply and demand

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. it's unfrickingethical

why? if people will pay, then those rooms are worth that much

if 2 parties voluntarily agree, then how can that be unethical?
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 9:47 pm
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:48 pm to
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We had a cab charge us $150 to get back after the Houston game. Uber was 8Xs. I couldn't get either. So lets just hold your horses with the chest beating.


So Über was $1200?

Just STFU
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:49 pm to
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if 2 parties voluntarily agree, then how can that be unethical?


Exactly. A business is designed to maximize margins on whatever service they provide. If the demand is there for the taking there should be no issue with the price for said service.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:50 pm to
Zealot sounds like a got damn pinko commie.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:50 pm to
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and no one has yet to answer this question: would you be okay with restaurants charging double the entree price during peak hours?

yes

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it's supply and demand so why don't they do it????

because i doubt the very top could charge double every night and maintain the demand. this would combo with pissing off a portion of the fanbase and lead to a cycle of death.

do you think it's unethical for restaurants to offer lunch specials? ladies night? happy hour? same thing
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:58 pm to
Damn sfp, how many families did yooober the monster ruin today?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:59 pm to
YOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBERT
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:00 pm to
A lot of Nigerian dudes in NOLA are gonna be pissed
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:02 pm to
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Owner of Liberty Bell Cabs in New Orleans, Tony Makhoul, called Uber a "cyber terrorist organization."



Yoooober!!!!!!!

They need a Nola cab reality show

Wait shite that's a good idea
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:40 pm to
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because i doubt the very top could charge double every night and maintain the demand. this would combo with pissing off a portion of the fanbase and lead to a cycle of death.


first off, the super bowl hotels are being paid by 95% corporate folks and not your fans…hence the reason for the unethical spike.

secondly, Uber is SO far ahead of the competition, they can piss off half their fan base and still have a billion dollar market. and the 10x spike was is unethical…you don't even know if it filled the demand….you have no data to back that claim…for all we know the 10x fare actually resulted in a net loss for the company instead of simply having a smaller spike.

hard to argue my point of 4-10x surge rate being ridiculous without the data to back it up…i know they lost 1 customer in me…in fact, you could probably poll Tigerdroppings on who accepted the huge increase and who didn't.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:48 pm to
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…for all we know the 10x fare actually resulted in a net loss for the company instead of simply having a smaller spike.


Well if that's the case they won't do it again


I was at the game too and needed a cab out of there. I saw uber was x7.5 so I walked a mile or so and found a cab. Free market
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49517 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:50 pm to
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first off, the super bowl hotels are being paid by 95% corporate folks and not your fans…hence the reason for the unethical spike.



So rich people's money is no good to you?

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secondly, Uber is SO far ahead of the competition, they can piss off half their fan base and still have a billion dollar market.


As opposed to a $2b market? Sounds like a smart decision on their part.

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you don't even know if it filled the demand….you have no data to back that claim


You need to open an economics book. They don't have a monopoly on transportation (cabs, buses, people driving themselves, long walks). It doesn't make sense for them to raise prices to make more money. Know why? Because if they made more money charging ~$100 per ride, they would do it ALL OF THE TIME.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:53 pm to
Wait, are we dissing uber for surge rates when demand is high?

For one, without it the wait would get to be so stupid long it'd be like calling a BR yellow cab.

Second, how is it any different than cabbies charging a flat rate/switching to cash only when a big event is going on in NOLA?
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:54 pm to
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I was at the game too and needed a cab out of there. I saw uber was x7.5 so I walked a mile or so and found a cab. Free market


Yea we just found a cab home after taking train to midtown. Even that still ended up being 3x the price we paid to uber to midtown a couple times before.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:43 pm to
The one point no one has brought up yet is the total cost of ownership UberX vs Taxi. Let's say 8 times you UberX it's cheaper than a cab, then twice it's 8x the fare. However, when you compare the cost of all taxis vs the cost of all Uber's, it's constant with Uber winning the battle of convenience. This argument to me lends itself a better viewpoint than simply being complacent with any surge price regardless.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:53 pm to
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 I saw uber was x7.5 so I walked a mile or so and found a cab. Free market 



I was drunk enough to pay it
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49517 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 1:13 am to
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Wait, are we dissing uber for surge rates when demand is high?



Only one of us is. Mostly because he doesn't understand:
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without it the wait would get to be so stupid long it'd be like calling a BR yellow cab.

Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96017 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:00 am to
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We had a cab charge us $150 to get back after the Houston game. Uber was 8Xs. I couldn't get either. So lets just hold your horses with the chest beating.


So Über was $1200?

Just STFU



so should i just call you an idiot now, or later?
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96017 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:03 am to
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Uber is a market. It's fine for normal use but it's not a serious alternative to the cab company yet.



in BR it most certainly is an alternative. at this point its not only that, its really the only way to go.
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