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re: No such thing as 'fat but fit', major study finds

Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98171 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:25 pm to
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On the opposite end Mark Henry was fat and could do a slam dunk.


A twentysomething Mark Henry can dunk a basketball. A fortysomething Mark Henry has crippling arthritis and probably diabetes. A fiftysomething Mark Henry probably won't be around at all.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:33 pm to
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People who are obese run an increased risk of heart failure and stroke even if they appear healthy


People who are obese don't ever appear healthy.

Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:44 pm to
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appear healthy.


In the study, I think "appear healthy" simply means they had no metabolic disease diagnosed at the outset. That term in the study had nothing to do with in-shape type fitness/strength/endurance. The title (No such thing as 'fat but fit') is kind of misleading as well.

All the study really did was show a correlation between BMI and a subsequent diagnosis of metabolic disease.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:42 pm to
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Can you maintain that for the next 40 years? Would you want to?


No, because I won't be trying to lose weight for the next 40 years. Hopefully I'll hit my goal by July 1st. Then I'll start eating looser, working out a bit harder until I get to where I want to be and then coast.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 3:43 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 5:59 pm to
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can you post a link to help me with stress and anxiety reduction


Look into:

Reducing negativity bias (spend less time on Poli Board and reading/watching the mainstream news).
Reduce Facebook /social media (you can unfollow people on Facebook = one way communication where you can look them up if you want, but otherwise you will stop getting their feeds

Optimize sleep by avoid bright lights/blue lights/electronics prior to bed (strive to shut this off 1 hour prior to bed). For that hour you can consider:

-light reading with dim or red band light (blue light disrupts circadian rhythm and melatonin production):



F.lux is a blue light filter program for a laptop that dials the blue light down at sunset. Most newer phones have blue light filter settings

-mindfulness practice/ meditation. Good starting apps would be Headspace or Calm (guided meditation). Jacobsen progressive muscle relaxation is also helpful in bed. Google it for a more formal description (toe to head sequence of relaxing muscle groups, mental imagery, and breathing). More advanced apps would be Brain.fm (for focus, meditation and sleep). This practice seems "woo-woo", but can be very powerful with daytime carryover. People report being more of an "observer" of things that used to bother them instead of a "responder". I have had similar results. You could also do this first thing in the AM upon waking.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 6:20 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:13 pm to
Other good resources:

Below is a good source for nutrition and wellness:

examine.com

quote:

The delightful and oh-so-Deutsche word for a circadian rhythm factor is zeitgeber. If you spend your workday indoors but watch TV and browse the web at night, work mostly alone during the day but socialize at night, and sit virtually motionless during the day but exercise at night, you’re effectively flipping three of the most important zeitgebers on their heads. So rather than investigating sleep supplements, let’s look into zeitgebers first.

The king of all zeitgebers is blue light. This light wavelength suppresses your body’s melatonin production. During the day, if you look up at the sky, you’ll see a free and powerful source of blue light: the sun. If you see the sun’s glorious light during the day, and shut off lights at night, hormones that vary throughout the day (such as cortisol and melatonin) are more likely to vary in the way you’d want them to.




Get outside, some sun when you can

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Below is a vid on the Stoics. All vids on the channel are good and on point

School of Life youtube channel

the cave

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Supplement to consider:

Magnesium (glycinate or threonate) - 200 to 350mg per day (take in the evening prior to bed as it can assist with sleep)

There is a form of magnesium citrate (natural calm) that can have a laxative effect (beware)

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You can also consider incorporating yoga into your training (breath work and mobility)

You can also use this bad boy for vibrating mobility work, foot/neck massages (prior to bed is great for relaxing)





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I leave you with this....



Stated another way:

He who you allow to push your buttons is your master....
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 8:51 pm
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:19 am to
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Can you maintain that for the next 40 years? Would you want to?



It sure beats being overweight, wouldn't you think?
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:27 am to
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No such thing as 'fat but fit', major study finds
Print out copies of this study and hand it to any fat frick who tries to claim otherwise.

We need to kill this "obese is ok" mindset with extreme prejudice.



I'm fat, i gained about 50 pounds last year dealing with tendinitis in my foot and make no other excuse for it. I have had blood work done and all my vitals are still good, cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. I would never claim to be fit though. Anyone who is a fat mess that claims to be fit is a fricking idiot.
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