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re: No such thing as 'fat but fit', major study finds

Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:13 am to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:13 am to
People will always look for an excuse to support their laziness.

1. Big boned
2. Fat but fit
3. Thyroid problem
..etc..etc..
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72058 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:16 am to
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Big boned
What fat people really look like.

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78466 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:16 am to
Alright - let me self evaluate based on that information.

Protein- check. For the most part I'm pretty good - don't like red meat much though. Veggie only at least twice a week.
Avoid processed garbage - check.
Veggies, nuts, olive oil - check.
Weight training - fail. Low impact resistance training instead because of back issues.
Short interval - fail . I'm a distance walker/ hiker type, average 35 miles per week over year.
Stress- lol. Almost entirely stress free. Buddhist practitioner , meditation , family support, etc . Truly blessed.
Sleep- 11:30 to 5:30 most nights . Ten minute nap most days before seeing clients in late afternoon.
Workout nutrition- ooops. I usually eat a banana and nuts or something before walks.
Inflammation- for years . Unspecified and bulging disc / sciatica for 25 years. Walk to keep in check.
Short interval - fail .i have to stick to low impact for back .
Healthy fats - check.

I think what I need to do is consistently time my meals better, hit the pool for some low impact cardio intensity and eat a bit more healthy protein. If I could talk to the 30 year old version of myself I would tell myself to turn down the intensity of exercise and focus more on sensible weight training. Because the dilemma now is that intense exercise just sets me back . I guess they call that aging.Your brain thinks you are 30, but your body says wtf...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:20 am to
Will post some info for ya this evening. Check back
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:26 am to
Kate Upton says you are all wrong.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47474 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:30 am to
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"We" is plural and in reference to a group of people including, but not limited to, Scruffy.


I'da rather have seen "They, including scruffy".

Don't get tart with me, boy.
Posted by Rouge
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:30 am to
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Carolina_Girl
you aint lived until you've seen a flexible big girl
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 9:37 am
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47474 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:39 am to
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How can you be obese but appear healthy?



James Haskell, flanker for England say's hello at 6'4 260. He can beat 90% of the OT any distance 40m to a 5k and bench 300 squat 400.
But... his BMI is 31.

Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8002 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:47 am to
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quote:
How can you be obese but appear healthy?


James Haskell, flanker for England say's hello at 6'4 260. He can beat 90% of the OT any distance 40m to a 5k and bench 300 squat 400.
But... his BMI is 31.


Guys like that are 4 or 5 sigma standard deviation extremes. Ditto NFL linemen.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25427 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:52 am to
Im the 10%, bro.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47474 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:52 am to
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Guys like that are 4 or 5 sigma standard deviation extremes. Ditto NFL linemen.




Being a former rugby player on a Div1 mens club. We had 8-10 of us at 28-32 BMI. Not nearly as jacked as him but we were all just as fit(okay maybe not as high on the beep test as pros) on the cardio metrics that pros are held too(that's the balance of genes with hard work).

So do the math of Division 1 mens club PLUS mens college teams in the US. Thats a LOT of young men 18-35 who fit that same mold as the Pro player example.

We still may have been outliers but it's very common to be 6'2 240 lbs, NOT be a professional rugby player and still fit/obese. The issue is AFTER you're done playing rugby.

Now I'm just fat.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81190 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:55 am to
Yep. It's just like when fat people look at "skinny fat" people and shite all over their eating habits and overall health. Yes, eating shitty processed foods isn't as healthy as fresh vegetables and lean proteins.. BUT being thin cuts out the majority of your health issues no matter what you eat or how you got there.

I lurk a weight loss forum and every day, you see someone who was 300+ post their weight loss story and every single one of them saw their blood work come back with an entire 180 from what it was when they were obese. And these are people who lost weight without eating "clean". The results are purely from no longer being overweight.

Fat people are just trying to make themselves feel better and justify their obesity when they claim they're 'fat but fit' and shite all over thin people with poor diets.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
78466 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:00 am to
Yeah - but by definition a morbidly obese person on the way to fitness is going to be " living fit" in an unfit body ( on the way to fitness). They aren't there yet, but they are in the middle of a process.

And we all know crazy unhealthy skinny people who eat like shite and are sedentary and smoke and do all kinds of unhealthy stuff.
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1483 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:19 am to
Coordination and balance have a great deal to do with being fit. It means that you're less likely to be injured in the course of daily life.

It obviously becomes really important as you age because seniors who aren't very good at either are also likely not in good shape. They're certainly at greater risk of breaking something when they fall.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81190 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:19 am to
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And we all know crazy unhealthy skinny people who eat like shite and are sedentary and smoke and do all kinds of unhealthy stuff.


It is really hard to be unhealthily skinny. My "recommended weight range" goes all the way down into the 80s. You have to be practically emaciated to be unhealthily skinny.

Smoking and eating like shite are not good for you, but from what I've read, those people's numbers (cholesterol, blood pressure, etc.) are still usually better than someone overweight/obese. At the end of the day, being overweight/obese is the unhealthiest thing you can do to your body. Somewhere along the way, our society has decided to accept these people and start pointing their fingers at poor diet, smoking, lack of exercise, etc. as if they are worse. And usually, they're not.
Posted by Rouge
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Member since Oct 2004
136798 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:23 am to
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My "recommended weight range" goes all the way down into the 80s.
you're basically the size of a horse jockey, so there's that
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:27 am to
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Some of you have no idea what "speaking in the 3rd person" actually consists of.


Might be time for Dr. Scruffy to brush up on his grade school English.

quote:

"We" is plural and in reference to a group of people including, but not limited to, Scruffy.



"We" is first person plural, not third.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:37 am to
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ThinePreparedAni



As a testament to what you posted: I went keto Feb 26th weighing 200 lbs. (<20 carbs/day, <1500 calories/day) I'm at 170 this morning.

Lots of protein for breakfast, but I do skip breakfast some mornings. Lots of fat consumed between avocados, cheeses, coconut oil, bacon, ribs and ribeyes. I did 24 hour fasts (dinner to dinner) 5 different times during this period. I am weight training 3x/week for about 45 minutes. I have done sprints/suicides a handful of times. I began mindfulness meditating 10-20 min/day. Been going to bed earlier. I have had my fair share of cheat days and meals, but I'm in the best shape I've been in in the past 8 years.
Posted by Bmath
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Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:40 am to
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Reminds me of googling the definition of "racist" for people who claim black people can't be. It's not as productive as you might hope.


Had a disagreement with my white hipster lab mate about this. She keeps thinking that racism = supremacism and therefore marginalized people can't be racist. She kept disagreeing that the two things can be mutually exclusive.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:40 am to
Sorry, but NFL offensive linemen seem to be very fit, now once they stop playing football but keep eating the same, that's a different story.
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