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re: nevermind
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:02 pm to Schwartz
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:02 pm to Schwartz
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So explain how something like a compressor stall would cause smoke in the cabin.
don't know any details, but what many mistake for smoke is just water vapor that occurs when the plane is suddenly depressurized
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:03 pm to 777Tiger
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I haven't read anything about this yet, but engine failure + smoke probably = uncontained failure, which could also mean loss of a control system, loss of electrical systems, and possible structural issues, not to mention that whole "really flammable gas possibly spewing from aircraft" thing.
you're right, what do I know? only been doing it for 34 years
Thanks 777. I was about to post this exact same thing on your behalf.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:04 pm to 777Tiger
And the remaining bleed air from the other engine wouldn't be enough to maintain pressurization?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:07 pm to Schwartz
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And the remaining bleed air from the other engine wouldn't be enough to maintain pressurization?
like I said, I don't know any details other than looking at this thread, but with just a few details I'm sure I good give you a pretty accurate picture, what is an "uncontained engine failure" anyway?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:10 pm to 777Tiger
Pieces of the engine that are supposed to stay in the engine leave the engine. United 232 ring a bell?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:11 pm to Schwartz
OMG it's a pilot pissing contest!
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:12 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:12 pm to The Baker
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:14 pm to 777Tiger
I've lost many engines over the course of my career most of them in the simulator. In the real world I have had two. The first in a Cessna 421 Golden Eagle, it was an event. The second in a King Air 200 had a fuel controller that went away and was a minor event. Lastly in the simulator coming out of Denver hot and heavy in a GV, it's add some rudder input into the dead engine, trim it, and keep her in the command bars, climb out and try not to spill your coffee. The airline guys train twice a year I believe where we trained once a year. With the airline types I know and have flown with believe me when I say you're in good hands.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:14 pm to The Baker
The passengers were surprisingly calm
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:15 pm to The Baker
HE TOLD YOU TO TURN OFF YOUR CELL PHONE, YOU DID THIS!
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:17 pm to Schwartz
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Pieces of the engine that are supposed to stay in the engine leave the engine. United 232 ring a bell?
actually a failure of all three hydraulic systems caused by a faulty fan blade rupturing the lines, engines 1 & 3 were running until impact, crash was due to poor hydraulic design, and a cracked fan blade that had been outsourced for rebuild, but was pencil whipped and returned for service, all flight controls disabled, the plane was actually "flown" by varying thrust on remaining engines to basically have a controlled crash
This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:31 pm to GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 6:41 pm to LordSaintly
I would have already passed out. Either that or the air marshall would have me on the floor due to my uncontrollable panic.
I don't fly much.
I don't fly much.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:03 pm to Purple Spoon
Looked like the old days when smoking was allowed on planes
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:57 pm to The Baker
Here's what I know (was told) - my co-worker who sits in the office next to mine was receiving texts from his best friend who was on that flight
-this all happened immediately after take-off
-there was a loud noise
-smoke could be seen coming out of one of the engines
-smoke filled the cabin (or I guess water vapor possibly)
-the oxygen masks did not deploy automatically, the flight attendants had to do them manually
-they turned around immediately and landed within minutes
-this all happened immediately after take-off
-there was a loud noise
-smoke could be seen coming out of one of the engines
-smoke filled the cabin (or I guess water vapor possibly)
-the oxygen masks did not deploy automatically, the flight attendants had to do them manually
-they turned around immediately and landed within minutes
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:03 pm to The Baker
Looks like fun. Just a little smoke.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:05 pm to genuineLSUtiger
All I know is you don't want engine failure ( left or right) on takeoff. Any other time is preferred.
Well not having any failure is preferred, but you know
Well not having any failure is preferred, but you know
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:15 pm to 777Tiger
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don't know any details, but what many mistake for smoke is just water vapor that occurs when the plane is suddenly depressurized
The captain told the passengers it was smoke so I doubt it was water vapor, captain!
Posted on 9/19/14 at 10:22 pm to Uncle Stu
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