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re: Neil deGrasse Tyson at Tulane

Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by Schwartz
Member since Nov 2006
27097 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:49 pm to
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I would like to know what reason could anyone give for not believing in God that believers would accept and say "Well you do have a point there."


None. "Faith" makes them blind to such things.
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
18755 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:51 pm to
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Wonder how much atheism he'll try to push on the audience


Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36112 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:54 pm to
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He certainly hates religion.



He does not.

He does however hate people who think their religion entitles them special license to attack science. His discussion about Abu Hamid al-Ghazali and the death of science in the muslim world centuries ago makes his motivations on this subject pretty clear. He believes that if you allow fundamentalists to destroy education and learning eventually you end up with a terrible society like what we've seen in the muslim world for the last 8 plus centuries.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:56 pm to
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I would like to know what reason could anyone give for not believing in God that believers would accept and say "Well you do have a point there."
I like what NDT says in that interview I linked. When something good happens to someone, God is great; God is loving; God is caring. When something bad happens to someone or a natural disaster kills thousands or hundreds of thousands of people, God works in mysterious ways.
Posted by SPEEDY
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83362 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:16 pm to
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He's overrated.


Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:19 pm to
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Wonder how much atheism he'll try to push on the audience


He is routinely (as in during every interview ever) asked about his belief and thoughts on religion, and his response is always that he is a scientist and just doesn't think about religion very much. When he brings it up, it's to discuss ideas born of religion involving science (like creationism and denial of the big bang), not religion itself.

He also has repeatedly told atheists not to claim him.
Posted by twoliter
Shreveport via West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
843 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:19 pm to
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I would like to know what reason could anyone give for not believing in God that believers would accept and say "Well you do have a point there."


I never said he (or anyone) should have to have a convincing argument for what they believe or don't believe. I just said that saying you don't believe in God because some people think he cares about petty things doesn't make a lot of sense. (That's what someone else posted he beloeves, not me.) After reading about him a little, he said no one has convinced him to believe. That makes sense. Not the previous explanation.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:22 pm to
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I like what NDT says in that interview I linked. When something good happens to someone, God is great; God is loving; God is caring. When something bad happens to someone or a natural disaster kills thousands or hundreds of thousands of people, God works in mysterious ways.


"I look out at the universe, see all the ways it wants to kill us and think to myself 'Any designer who intended all this to be for our benefit isn't very good at his job'"
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9882 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:17 pm to
Line is backed up to freret and students have already filled 75% of the auditorium... Don't waste your time trying to get in
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10306 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:19 pm to
Thanks. Looks like 3000 people in line out here. And I'm in the back.
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10306 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:20 pm to
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Don't waste your time trying to get in


Unless you're also in the back trying to discourage people and move up in line.....

Hmmmm
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9882 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:25 pm to
I'm in here
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:28 pm to
He's a scientist, not a philosopher or a theologian. Why should we expect him to have some special insight?

His draw is that he's a great communicator of science to the masses. Not many guys at his level are very good at it.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:30 pm to
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He's a scientist, not a philosopher or a theologian. Why should we expect him to have some special insight?

Well you sound fun to be around.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:40 pm to
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Well you sound fun to be around.


???

I like the guy a lot. I know it's a modern production of Sagan, but how many guys could convince a room full of TV suits to put him on a network, in prime time, to talk about science?

What he's doing is very important and what our culture needs more of. We need young people excited about going to Mars or curing cancer. I mean, Miguel Cabrera makes 40K an at bat.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:41 pm to
Must have misread your post. Sounded like you were trashing him because he wasn't going to bring some incredible insight.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33933 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:17 pm to
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He's overrated.


The guy is revitalizing interest in science. I'll embrace him.
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Osaka
Member since Nov 2003
3275 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:26 pm to
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What he's doing is very important and what our culture needs more of. We need young people excited about going to Mars or curing cancer.
what we need more of is science
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10306 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:46 pm to
Yeahhhh.... Didn't make it in.
Posted by Louisiania
Member since Nov 2013
150 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 11:51 pm
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