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re: Name a former English colony not better off than before it was colonized.

Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:39 pm to
Rock & Roll?

























I don't agree, but couldn't resist...
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:39 pm to
isnt myanmar basically a failed state
Posted by AlextheBodacious
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:41 pm to
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Name a former English colony where people of English decent don’t have it good.

Fixed the title for you.

What area is better off having been colonized? Kinda hard to include the America’s and Australia considering the original inhabitants don’t control much anymore. Hong Kong had it good for awhile but that’s over. Mesopotamia got carved up and fricked over hard after WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Actions England took in what’s now Iraq directly led to the rise of Saddam and left the Kurds with no right to self govern.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:43 pm to
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isnt myanmar basically a failed state
If your peasants





Wallow in mire





Let them join





Our Empire

Burma-Shave
Posted by Twenty 49
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:43 pm to
New York, Virginia, Maryland, etc. were nice enough for the folks living there for centuries until the Brits colonized them and wiped out all the residents by disease or murder.

The areas are “better off” for the colonists who took over, but not for the folks who were there first.
Posted by hubreb
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:45 pm to
Many African countries were exploding in a positive manner until the British relinquished rule...then they turned to shite again
Posted by LSUneaux
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:47 pm to
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New York, Virginia, Maryland, etc. were nice enough for the folks living there for centuries until the Brits colonized them and wiped out all the residents by disease or murder. The areas are “better off” for the colonists who took over, but not for the folks who were there first.


There were like 12 people in North America before they came over.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:51 pm to
Kipling was right about the White Man’s burden.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:52 pm to
There were less than 1MM natives occupying the lands north of the Rio Grande including present day Canada.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:52 pm to
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India? Weren’t they a thriving empire in the sub continent prior to complete British exploitation and resource thievery?



Friend of mine in college was from India. He told me that they talk badly of when the English ruled but admitted that everything they have in regard to infrastructure was due to the English and that they were better off. Heck, most of the countries in that region still use the same trains that the English brought there.
Posted by Eightballjacket
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:53 pm to
How did the British manage to take over so many people spread over so much of the world? More modern weapons and battle tactics?
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:54 pm to
Maybe India.

The partition fricked things up there pretty badly...and it is still just a maybe.

Ditto Sudan. Ironically, a partition would have probably been better there.

The vast majority of their former colonies saw better times due to their influence though.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:55 pm to
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How did the British manage to take over so many people spread over so much of the world? More modern weapons and battle tactics?


Yes, although the Zulu and Boers gave them fits.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:57 pm to
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How did the British manage to take over so many people spread over so much of the world
being the first country in human history to industrialize is a pretty big advantage
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:57 pm to
Great. Another circle jerk.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:58 pm to
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wiped out all the residents by disease or murder.


Was this guy your professor?

Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:59 pm to
Hard to say because most of those in the colonies at least the islands wer brought there on boats
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:06 pm to
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Many African countries were exploding in a positive manner until the British relinquished rule...then they turned to shite again


They left a power vacuum in countries with boundaries that were drawn to include multiple tribes / religions / ethnicities. It typically set off conflicts / civil wars for control. Where the dust up settled down quickly, or there weren’t any due to the population being fairly homogeneous, they typically found success.

Others (Sudan) are still shitholes (even though they are two separate nations now).
Posted by justaniceguy
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:37 pm to
And many of them are southerners that are scots Irish but claim to be Irish
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:44 pm to
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How did the British manage to take over so many people spread over so much of the world


The Royal Navy
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