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re: Murderer of JPSO Officer David Michel files excessive force suit against 28 deputies
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:33 am to theenemy
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:33 am to theenemy
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Did they not seek the death penalty?
They are seeking the death penalty.
And for anyone saying "if he's guilty" - there were multiple witnesses and he confessed that he killed the cop because he didn't want to be caught with a gun since he had been on probation after getting arrested for possession of stolen property (one item being a stolen gun). Also, he is pleading not guilty by reason of insanity due to LEAD POISONING. I think I've heard it all now. So he is GUILTY of the MURDER. No one is denying that.
I've seen the video of the alleged beating and you can't see much of anything other than a struggle going on and some obvious punches being thrown during the struggle. It was reported that for the audio part, the officers were ordering the man to show them his hands while he was struggling with them on the ground, but the video that was released to the public has no audio. With what had just taken place with him killing one officer that tried to search him, I really don't know how he wasn't shot when he didn't comply once they had him on the ground since it's alleged that he was still armed at that point. I think they showed restraint in not shooting him due to the danger of the situation.
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:36 am to GenesChin
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guy may be a piece of shite, but it is for a jury not police to make that determination.
If another officer was on scene and just unloaded on the guy rt then and there, would you be singing the same tune?
Or do you just let him run off and let him live out his life waiting on the jury to decide?
He killed the cop in cold blood because he didn't want to go to jail for possessing an illegal firearm.
This guy was dangerous. He was willing to kill. You don't take chances or you might wind up with 3 bullets in you.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 10:41 am
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:40 am to dgnx6
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So I'm not really outraged he got beat up
I have no concern for the shooter. My concern is for the rest of us.
Police are not as respected as they once were. All too often they cannot be trusted. This because they themselves have damaged that trust.
I get you have bad people in all jobs. However, police have the ability to take our freedom with theirs.
The good ones become the bad ones when they lie, cover up or turn a blind eye to the actions of the bad ones. They will enforce the law until it is a 'brother's that is the one breaking the law.
The police need to police the police.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:43 am to novabill
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The police need to police the police.
I'm right there with you.
I also think it's a two way street though. If citizens would control themselves, I think there would be less of this stuff going on.
If you or I were walking down Manhattan and a cop stops us, and we aren't doing anything wrong. It will just be a short inconvenience and both you and the officer will move on with your life.
All the rest of what happened was because some punk that has no regard for human life.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:46 am to dgnx6
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If another officer was on scene and just unloaded on the guy rt then and there, would you be singing the same tune?
Are you asking if there was another officer present who witnessed the shooting who then shot this guy, would people be ok with it?
Yes...I think nearly everyone without an agenda would.
it really isn't a contradiction to say you'd have been ok with a shooting if it took place at the moment and NOT ok with a beat down after the fact which was rage based on behalf of the guys powered by the state to uphold the law.
Sort of like being ok with him being shot during the altercation by another LEO but not ok with him being shot ten minutes later while in handcuffs. Technically, he'd still be dead but one would be WAY less justified.
I'm just not a fan of allowing police to be judge and jury. I think more people would agree with this if they'd have had a run in with a LEO where they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and were lucky to not encounter the Judge Dredd type characters so many here seem to want.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:54 am to GeauxTigerTM
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m just not a fan of allowing police to be judge and jury. I
That's the line though. So they can be judge, jury and executioner as long as a certain amount of time doesn't pass?
What's the diff in beating the guy or just killing on scene, to beating him later on when he's still armed and just as dangerous. maybe more so now that he's already taken a life.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 10:56 am
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:55 am to dgnx6
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:59 am to dgnx6
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That's the line though. So they can be judge, jury and executioner as long as a certain amount of time doesn't pass?
What's the diff in beating the guy or just killing on scene, to beating him later on when he's still armed and just as dangerous. maybe more so now that he's already taken a life.
Because on the scene the officer is in the act of trying to protect himself or others from someone trying to commit murder.
At a later date, the officer would be strictly administering punishment of a past crime.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:08 am to USMCTiger03
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Too bad they didn't bring him in in a body bag.
While he is likely guilty, we are a country of laws, one of the key ones being "innocent until proven guilty." While I am fine with police using necessary force to subdue a suspect, it is completely unacceptable to assume guilt and carry out the potential punishment of execution before seeing the inside of a courtroom. This is not the Philappines. Some of you guys cause me concern about the future of this country.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:31 am to novabill
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If they needed to beat him to arrest him, fine. But, if they could have arrested him without the beating then they broke the law themselves.
Some on here are not a as much law and order they claim to be. The law does not allow for the police to needlessly brutalized someone that breaks the law. There is no exception for shooting a cop.
I am all for executing the convicted murderer but I think the police should be expected to obey the law as well.
On all of this we agree. This guy is bringing the suit and he will carry the burden of proving his assertions. A statement from his attorney is a far cry from that proof.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:34 am to OKellsBells
He will settle for $200,000, then die in prison within five years.
Mom will get the money and be dead in four years
Mom will get the money and be dead in four years
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:45 am to The Torch
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He will settle for $200,000, then die in prison within five years.
Mom will get the money and be dead in four years
Family of slain officer should be able to sue for that.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:57 am to islandtiger
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Some of you guys cause me concern about the future of this country.
You know what causes me concern for this country - a teenager who admittedly shot an officer in the back and killed him (because he didn't want to get caught with a gun since he was on probation) pleading not guilty by way of insanity due to lead poisoning rather than taking responsibility for what he did.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:23 pm to OKellsBells
Hoping someone shanks his arse today!
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:36 pm to biglego
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Maybe they should've hit him in the body instead of the face
Start carrying phone books and bags of oranges.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 1:00 pm to theenemy
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Hydraulics....Like a shear.
If we can shear tree trunks in two....we can definitely shear a neck.
How about we just take him to a saw mill and toss him in the debarker? Nothing left but a red stain.
Seriously, the way to execute someone is with a lock. Lock the cell and leave them there. All the water they want to drink from the sink, but no food. Starvation is one of the worst ways to die. And he would have plenty of time to think about why he was there.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 1:29 pm to USMCTiger03
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Too bad they didn't bring him in in a body bag.
Honestly, this should teach cops a lesson.
If you're bringing in a mope that killed a cop, don't arrest him and beat him, just kill him.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 1:30 pm to alphaandomega
Public carvings of blood eagles
Posted on 6/24/17 at 1:38 pm to islandtiger
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Some of you guys cause me concern about the future of this country.
Funny, this lawsuit and the potential for it to be settled out of court and a cop killed potentially getting money for his crime is what concerns me about the future of this country.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 1:59 pm to OKellsBells
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Murderer of JPSO Officer
Alleged* Murderer of JPSO Officer
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