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re: Medieval farmers ate 7000-9000 calories a dsy

Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:03 am to
Posted by JamesVinson
Austin
Member since Feb 2024
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:03 am to
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It’s true. People of size have always existed. It’s called genetics


It's true.

They also didn't have fridges back then to store their genetics, so they had to use ice houses instead.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19402 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:10 am to
Butter is great for you. Fat is great for you.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6225 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:22 am to
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cold people eat more


Exactly.
Look at Eskimos.
They eat fatty seafood oils. Thousands of calories.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:06 am to
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Butter is great for you. Fat is great for you.

Posted by RocketTiger
Member since Mar 2014
1128 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:56 am to
Butter back then was just churned whole milk. Not the garbage we call butter today.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15856 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:09 am to
It’s bc they didn’t. No evidence was given to support this claim
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11439 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:15 am to
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Lots of porridge or gruel


wasn't porridge pretty much oatmeal? You'd have to eat around 50 cooked cups of it to hit that many calories. I know whatever they were making was more calorie dense than that but I'm guessing they put a lot of fat in whatever they were eating to be able to hit that many calories.


Just wondering what 9000 calories of food in a day looked like without all the processed shite we have today.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15838 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:18 am to
Farm work requires more calories than the average sedentary person would need to eat. I imagine that it was even harder before farm machinery was invented. There are a lot of farmers in my area. They eat a big breakfast and large midday dinner. Supper tends to be a lighter meal. They don't get fat and don't seem to have cardiovascular diseases.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27722 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:19 am to
I wonder what their caloric intake was on average during the winter months especially in the more northern climates.....especially in the later parts of the season.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:28 am to
If you think about how much manual labor went into farming before mechanization this is not surprising. It also explains why 30-40 years old.

quote:

No wonder there were so many famines


When your food supply is not guaranteed you have to eat and put on fat while you can.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:39 am to
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It’s bc they didn’t. No evidence was given to support this claim


Right. This thread just has a bunch of typical OTers chiming in with “of course” and “does this surprise you”. There is no evidence that they consumed that many calories back then. A little research shows the guesstimates to be all over the place, but a general consensus seems to be around 3000 calories per day.

7-9k calories is extreme.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65920 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:48 am to
Yes, it's hungry work then and now. Let's take a look and see how close we can come for a man in the middle ages, daily:

Whole wheat bread, 1 slice. 67 calories. 12 slices: 804
Egg, 74 calories. 12 eggs: 888
Pancakes, 86 calories. 12 pancakes: 1032
Bacon, thick, 80 calories. 12 slices: 960
Biscuits, Grands Homestyle, 170 calories. 12 biscuits: 2040
Banana (didn't have in England) 105 calories. 12 bananas: 1260 calories.
Guiness Stout, pint. 215 calories. 12 Guinness: 2580

Total: 9564

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Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53957 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:51 am to
I’ve read similar calorie intake by nineteenth century American mountain men.
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1977 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 7:36 am to
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Medieval farmers ate 7000-9000 calories a day


Did a climate change scientist come up with this theory?
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 7:37 am
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
873 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 7:49 am to
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They had cavepeople of size too


People of size? Is that what we’re calling fatties?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99255 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 8:13 am to
That’s a pretty high estimate. r/AskHistorians have had various posts about this and all seem to agree it was likely closer to 4-5,000 kcals a day.

This post in particular has some good detail about diet in the British Isles in late Medieval times. With some links in the comments that go down that rabbit hole into medieval farming as well as diets for Templars.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 8:15 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 8:35 am to
I have watched monsters of men that workout constantly who struggle with that many calories when it’s actually real food. That’s what Jay Cutler (bodybuilder) ate when bulking and he struggled with it. And that’s a 300lb man

Having a hard time believing this one. They would have been fat as frick. They couldn’t come close to burning those calories on an average day
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 8:44 am
Posted by glassart
Member since Apr 2021
302 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 8:43 am to
This says way more about you than it does about farmers.

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 8:47 am to
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I remember watching or reading something about British sailors in the 17-1800s and it said they ate about 5k calories a day. A lot of the calories were from butter



navy sailors were daily rationed a gallon of beer and pint of rum so that adds up
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 8:47 am
Posted by glassart
Member since Apr 2021
302 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 8:47 am to
Articles on the internet show cavemen with big bones so it checks out. Evidently ALL cavemen were “big boned”.

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