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re: Medieval farmers ate 7000-9000 calories a dsy
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:53 pm to athenslife101
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:53 pm to athenslife101
quote:If so, I stand corrected.
We have athletes today who easily match or exceed that
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:57 pm to athenslife101
quote:
Medieval farmers ate 7000-9000 calories a dsy
That's when tren was invented.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:58 pm to athenslife101
nvm
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:59 pm to TheGasMan
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It’s not possible. Whoever believes that or wrote that has no idea the scale of production that incurs.
Chopping wood or fetching water from the river would give most on this board a heart attack. Thats probably how these baws started their day.
I dont doubt these estimates for one second.
Anyone that has cleared land with hand tools or chopped/split wood with a weighted splitting maul, or bailed hay knows this.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:01 pm to athenslife101
Your post, based on Rouche, involves his problematic and speculative assertions about the EARLY Middle Ages, mostly prior to 1,000 AD. The numbers are unlikely.
But they are certainly unlikely compared to the numbers in the 1300-1500 period.
But they are certainly unlikely compared to the numbers in the 1300-1500 period.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:02 pm to athenslife101
is love to know how they came up with this number
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:04 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
People in medieval times didn't have fundamentally different bodies than ours.
They were probably half a foot shorter on average if I had to guess. That number is absurd
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:04 pm to athenslife101
A. How do they know this?
B. Wasn’t the average man only 5’3 or so back then?
B. Wasn’t the average man only 5’3 or so back then?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:05 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:hell, we don't even know who "they" are yet.
is love to know how they came up with this number
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:06 pm to Sao
quote:
I think you're purposely ignoring glaring logic just to fall on Sir Lancelot's sword here.
What logic is that?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:06 pm to UnitedFruitCompany
I mean you’re not wrong about most of these posters… but “medieval farmers ate 7000-9000 calories a day”? Think about that. That’s not sustainable in any sized culture when you factor in population size, tools, crop yield, etc. per capita. Key word being per capita. Even in todays massive abilities of several of those factors, we couldn’t sustain that (once again that’s per capita, so it’s normalized).
Absolute bullshite of an OP
Absolute bullshite of an OP
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:09 pm to Ancient Astronaut
Without the roids and silly ink.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:09 pm to shutterspeed
Forget the butter. It would be too labor intensive. Think about the seasonal milk production and not letting it go to waste...make cheese and store it for late fall and winter usage.
Now let's butcher an old animal with fatty tissues: first you are going to eat the organ meats. Then the tough muscles go into stews (crack the bones and enjoy the marrow). All that fat isn't going to waste. If you are wealthy, some of it might be made into soap. Most will go into use as food, sopped up by bread (not all bread was wheat based. Regionally other grains were more productive and dependable.
The grains that were used for beer and other alcoholic drinks, after the alcohol happened, the leftovers became animal feed or sorts of heavy 'breads'.
If you ever go to Louisberg on the Atlantic coast of Nova Scotia, (like Williamsburg but French and fewer tourists), they sell a hard tack bread that is close to what their settlers ate. But if the baker is in a chatty mood he'll tell you that the real thing was so hard most people couldn't bite into it much less chew it. It would have been edible dunked in a stew.
Now let's butcher an old animal with fatty tissues: first you are going to eat the organ meats. Then the tough muscles go into stews (crack the bones and enjoy the marrow). All that fat isn't going to waste. If you are wealthy, some of it might be made into soap. Most will go into use as food, sopped up by bread (not all bread was wheat based. Regionally other grains were more productive and dependable.
The grains that were used for beer and other alcoholic drinks, after the alcohol happened, the leftovers became animal feed or sorts of heavy 'breads'.
If you ever go to Louisberg on the Atlantic coast of Nova Scotia, (like Williamsburg but French and fewer tourists), they sell a hard tack bread that is close to what their settlers ate. But if the baker is in a chatty mood he'll tell you that the real thing was so hard most people couldn't bite into it much less chew it. It would have been edible dunked in a stew.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:09 pm to athenslife101
quote:
I think it makes sense for manual laborers. Not for everyone though.
We have athletes today who easily match or exceed that
They're intentionally expending a ton of energy and are some of the most genetically blessed people in the world
Working on a farm all day isn't anywhere near equivalent to training for the olympics
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:10 pm to athenslife101
quote:
What logic is that?
Keep posting, Longshanks
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:15 pm to athenslife101
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:18 pm to Sao
quote:
4 medium Domino's pepperoni pizzas are less than 8000 calories.
Where on earth did a community grow that much grain to bake that much bread per day? for an average farmer/laborer?
A single large Papa Murphy's pizza is over 3000 calories and I can polish one off by myself.
If I was working in the fields all day I could see eating two or three of them.
*No, I'm not a fatass.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:21 pm to White Bear
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Obesity remains an issue with farmer baws on average. Some fat mother frickers.
That's a recent thing.
Find a pic of a fat farmer pre-1970.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:23 pm to UnitedFruitCompany
quote:The average young male field hand slave working cotton fields in the south or cane plantations in the Caribbean required around 4k a day to maintain. I have a hard time believing that Medieval sustenance farmers in general required double those calories.
Chopping wood or fetching water from the river would give most on this board a heart attack. Thats probably how these baws started their day.
I dont doubt these estimates for one second.
Anyone that has cleared land with hand tools or chopped/split wood with a weighted splitting maul, or bailed hay knows this.
And if they did it was a circular problem because the only reason they would need to burn that many calories is to use them to grow more food so they could eat 9k calories a day.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:24 pm to TheGasMan
These guys also ate very differently than we do now. Hell, bone marrow was a staple for them. good size chunk of that from a sow is good for 2k calories by itself. Throw some offal with marrow and some veggies in a stew and you probably get to 5k without breaking a sweat.
Plus the whole dying at the ripe old age of 40 made them less worried about abs and more worried about feeding the machine.
Plus the whole dying at the ripe old age of 40 made them less worried about abs and more worried about feeding the machine.
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