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re: Medieval farmers ate 7000-9000 calories a dsy

Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:53 pm to
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We have athletes today who easily match or exceed that
If so, I stand corrected.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:57 pm to
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Medieval farmers ate 7000-9000 calories a dsy



That's when tren was invented.
Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:58 pm to
nvm
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 9:49 pm
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:59 pm to
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It’s not possible. Whoever believes that or wrote that has no idea the scale of production that incurs.


Chopping wood or fetching water from the river would give most on this board a heart attack. Thats probably how these baws started their day.

I dont doubt these estimates for one second.

Anyone that has cleared land with hand tools or chopped/split wood with a weighted splitting maul, or bailed hay knows this.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12264 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:01 pm to
Your post, based on Rouche, involves his problematic and speculative assertions about the EARLY Middle Ages, mostly prior to 1,000 AD. The numbers are unlikely.
But they are certainly unlikely compared to the numbers in the 1300-1500 period.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2110 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:02 pm to
is love to know how they came up with this number
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2110 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:04 pm to
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People in medieval times didn't have fundamentally different bodies than ours.


They were probably half a foot shorter on average if I had to guess. That number is absurd
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
1355 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:04 pm to
A. How do they know this?
B. Wasn’t the average man only 5’3 or so back then?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35525 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:05 pm to
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is love to know how they came up with this number
hell, we don't even know who "they" are yet.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18605 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:06 pm to
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I think you're purposely ignoring glaring logic just to fall on Sir Lancelot's sword here.


What logic is that?
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3147 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:06 pm to
I mean you’re not wrong about most of these posters… but “medieval farmers ate 7000-9000 calories a day”? Think about that. That’s not sustainable in any sized culture when you factor in population size, tools, crop yield, etc. per capita. Key word being per capita. Even in todays massive abilities of several of those factors, we couldn’t sustain that (once again that’s per capita, so it’s normalized).

Absolute bullshite of an OP
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:09 pm to
Without the roids and silly ink.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8707 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:09 pm to
Forget the butter. It would be too labor intensive. Think about the seasonal milk production and not letting it go to waste...make cheese and store it for late fall and winter usage.
Now let's butcher an old animal with fatty tissues: first you are going to eat the organ meats. Then the tough muscles go into stews (crack the bones and enjoy the marrow). All that fat isn't going to waste. If you are wealthy, some of it might be made into soap. Most will go into use as food, sopped up by bread (not all bread was wheat based. Regionally other grains were more productive and dependable.
The grains that were used for beer and other alcoholic drinks, after the alcohol happened, the leftovers became animal feed or sorts of heavy 'breads'.

If you ever go to Louisberg on the Atlantic coast of Nova Scotia, (like Williamsburg but French and fewer tourists), they sell a hard tack bread that is close to what their settlers ate. But if the baker is in a chatty mood he'll tell you that the real thing was so hard most people couldn't bite into it much less chew it. It would have been edible dunked in a stew.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:09 pm to
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I think it makes sense for manual laborers. Not for everyone though.

We have athletes today who easily match or exceed that


They're intentionally expending a ton of energy and are some of the most genetically blessed people in the world

Working on a farm all day isn't anywhere near equivalent to training for the olympics
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65931 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:10 pm to
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What logic is that?


Keep posting, Longshanks
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11824 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:15 pm to
Quick internet search:

LINK

For this site looks like 3500-4500 calories but burned like 7k a day
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49783 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:18 pm to
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4 medium Domino's pepperoni pizzas are less than 8000 calories.

Where on earth did a community grow that much grain to bake that much bread per day? for an average farmer/laborer?



A single large Papa Murphy's pizza is over 3000 calories and I can polish one off by myself.

If I was working in the fields all day I could see eating two or three of them.

*No, I'm not a fatass.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49783 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:21 pm to
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Obesity remains an issue with farmer baws on average. Some fat mother frickers.




That's a recent thing.

Find a pic of a fat farmer pre-1970.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35525 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:23 pm to
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Chopping wood or fetching water from the river would give most on this board a heart attack. Thats probably how these baws started their day.

I dont doubt these estimates for one second.

Anyone that has cleared land with hand tools or chopped/split wood with a weighted splitting maul, or bailed hay knows this.
The average young male field hand slave working cotton fields in the south or cane plantations in the Caribbean required around 4k a day to maintain. I have a hard time believing that Medieval sustenance farmers in general required double those calories.

And if they did it was a circular problem because the only reason they would need to burn that many calories is to use them to grow more food so they could eat 9k calories a day.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 8:17 pm
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
3411 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:24 pm to
These guys also ate very differently than we do now. Hell, bone marrow was a staple for them. good size chunk of that from a sow is good for 2k calories by itself. Throw some offal with marrow and some veggies in a stew and you probably get to 5k without breaking a sweat.

Plus the whole dying at the ripe old age of 40 made them less worried about abs and more worried about feeding the machine.
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