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re: Meathead has the serious roid/road rage --NSFW LANGUAGE--

Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:02 am to
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14246 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:02 am to
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there is very good chance you will be arrested and criminally charged. It happens every day, look at New Orleans. They have a hard on for citizens with guns.

Doesn't New Orleans have a "shoot the carjacker" law just for this type situation?

A friend of mine shot and killed a bad guy in the street in front of his Uptown home. NOPD questioned him for a couple of hours and then let him go. They even gave him his gun back shortly thereafter. No civil proceedings, no nothing. Neighbor's wanted to erect a statue.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
108737 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:03 am to
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Well, which one is it tough guy?


Are you too fricking stupid to see the difference?

In a situation like the one in the video, I'd drive off if possible.

If someone gets in my truck or busts out a window I'm not exiting my vehicle and running away.

The video situation had not reached the point of using deadly force IMO. As long as the guy is still outside the vehicle and unarmed he is not a threat to your life.

Here's what I actually said:
quote:

If I'm in MY vehicle or MY house I'm not running. You come through my door then you better be ready to die.


Vehicle door/house door, dickhead.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 9:04 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:03 am to
If a road rager approach is your car with his hands in his pockets or where you can't see them, you should be able to just shoot and use the cop defense I feared for my life. That should work.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:03 am to
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I know what the letter of the law says, but I'd hate to go broke proving my point.


i'm thinking this is what my confusion was from the instructor 6 year ago. I took his saying to avoid situations if i could with a firearm as it was Louisiana state law that didn't want me standing my ground.
I've just always had that mindset that if i can i don't want to have to use my firearm or training.
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
Member since Apr 2014
4394 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:04 am to
I didn't say there aren't rules protecting the driver, but in this case, it wasn't enough to shoot the guy. But yes, if he OPENED his door and attacked him, it'd be justified.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28097 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:05 am to
I don't disagree.

And here's where you can get into a "time" deal and why I would never film.

Some people will see the vid and say, "oh, he had time to drive off".

Grab my door handle and I'm in traffic and he'd be DRT. My story will be the one that gets told.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28097 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:07 am to
Well, they charged the guy that shot that kid tha climbed over his fence.


NOPD sucks hard.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108737 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:08 am to
It's going to have to be a split second decision most times.

In this video I don't think deadly force is warranted. The rager is hitting the glass but not very hard... now if he smashes in the window then IMO it has escalated to a deadly force situation. If he gets the door open, it's a deadly force situation.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:09 am to
Someone tickles my butthole they catching a 147 grain
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:13 am to
I'd go with this plan.

In the situation from the video, I don't know if it would be reasonable to fear for your life after the first 10 hits of the window. At that point, it is pretty evident that the irate driver wasn't getting in the car. The driver would not have been justified in shooting through the glass at the end if the video.

However, he might have been after the first hit of the window. He should have shot earlier.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108737 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:13 am to
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tickles my butthole


Deadly force is authorized
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28097 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:15 am to
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A friend of mine shot and killed a bad guy in the street in front of his Uptown home. NOPD questioned him for a couple of hours and then let him go.


Your friend made a huge mistake if talked to NOPD w/o an attorney present.

bolding, b/c that oughta be a takeaway from this thread
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:15 am to
The dude in the car was surprisingly calm. I don't think I possess the ability to sit there and let some dork yell at me like that. I'm pretty confidant in my ability to handle myself, I might have gotten out of the car. Obviously that's the exact wrong thing to do in this situation but goddamn it would have felt good to give that guy a nice open hand slap.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:20 am to
Drives a Saab. Probably wrecked into him to get his digits for a late night sesh
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:21 am to
Guy recording is definitely a little bitch.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:25 am to
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the camera douche instigating shite
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The guy saying settle down repeatedly

Nope. The guy nearly causing an accident, driving aggressively, then cowering down, locking his door, and turning pussy when it came time to actually put up.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:25 am to
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Now, if he grabs the door handle and tries to get in, you can blow his head clean off, assuming you can't get away. No law says you've got to take an arse-beating or even have hands laid on you.

i think ole boy did pull on the door handle several times in that video.


Yeah but the only thing the fig in the car could have done was get out and hit him with his purse.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78946 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:26 am to
Is that Will Muschamp?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:27 am to
He was wearing his stress free right earring that day
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18590 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:28 am to
You would not be wise to use your sidearm in that situation. You would need a very self-defense friendly DA to not get charged.

Even if found innocent there is probably a minimum of $15K in legal to get out of it.
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