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Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:52 pm to slackster
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Yeah I get that and I was mostly being facetious but spreading to 7 detainees that aren't likely immunized and 4 staffers who were immunized isn't exactly a promising discrepancy.
To be fair...I had to have a second MMR booster shot(the shot that protects against measles). When I started travelnursing I had to get bloodwork done and it showed I wasn't immune.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:52 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Scruffy reads pretty good.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:56 pm to Scruffy
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quote: Crazy anti-vaccination republican moms!
I've always felt that it was the granola, heavily liberal moms, but that's just from my experience in clinic.
Pretty sure these make up only a tiny fraction of the unvaccinated. The real threat comes from massive waves of unvaccinated illegal 3rd world immigrants.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:57 pm to Scruffy
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You are looking at the fact that only 11 people are referenced. How many people do you think interacted with them in passing?
I'm sure it is quite high, but at an immigration detainee center, I'd imagine the majority of patrons are not immunized. As a result, I'd think there would be a widespread outbreak among the detainees and a few staffers here and there. Only 7 detainees and 4 staffers is still a win for immunizations, but it isn't exactly what I'd expect. Perhaps more like 25 detainees and 4 staffers, assuming all detainees were not immunized and all staffers had received immunization.
ETA: In no way am I even remotely anti-vaxx, but I just thought this would be a more pronounced "loss" for the unvaccinated individuals.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:12 pm to lsunurse
Reading that article, I didn't realize measles was eliminated in 2000.. But then in 2008 drs started noticing the rise of measles cases.. Partly due to communities that do not vaccinate. So not getting vaccinated isn't just harmful to the person not getting vaccinated?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:14 pm to slackster
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Welp, what the hell am I getting vaccinated for
if this shite still happens:
It becomes less effective over time, but ideally you got it as a child when you needed the protection the most.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:18 pm to OweO
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So not getting vaccinated isn't just harmful to the person not getting vaccinated?
You have to consider that vaccinations are not 100% gonna protect everyone. So people vaccinated exposed to it could still get it possibly.
Also consider people that cannot be vaccinated due to medical conditions. Or babies that are too young to be fully vaccinated against all these diseases as well.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:20 pm to lsunurse
This is an immigration issue period. The immigrants from Mexico, Central America, and the Middle East have diseases that we aren't immune to. Not a slam to those folks, buts it's reality. It will continue to fester until Trump takes office.
LINK
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This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:22 pm to Scruffy
trump is gonna use this in his push for the wall. people are just sick of the illegals and this is just gasoline to throw on the fire for trump.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:55 pm to lsunurse
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You have to consider that vaccinations are not 100% gonna protect everyone. So people vaccinated exposed to it could still get it possibly.
Also consider people that cannot be vaccinated due to medical conditions. Or babies that are too young to be fully vaccinated against all these diseases as well.
I gotcha. So technically it would be hard to completely eliminate it?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:57 pm to Scruffy
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Scruffy was vaccinated against sarcasm.
Is that why you're autistic?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:14 pm to lsunurse
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The disease is so infectious that if one person has it, 90 percent of the people he or she comes in contact with will also get the disease unless they are immune
holy hell!...that is an amazing statistic...
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:17 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:Maybe.
Is that why you're autistic?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:19 pm to slackster
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I'm sure it is quite high, but at an immigration detainee center, I'd imagine the majority of patrons are not immunized. As a result, I'd think there would be a widespread outbreak among the detainees and a few staffers here and there. Only 7 detainees and 4 staffers is still a win for immunizations, but it isn't exactly what I'd expect. Perhaps more like 25 detainees and 4 staffers, assuming all detainees were not immunized and all staffers had received immunization.
ETA: In no way am I even remotely anti-vaxx, but I just thought this would be a more pronounced "loss" for the unvaccinated individuals.
Sounds like the staffers need booster shots.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:21 pm to Spankum
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that is an amazing statistic...
That was also my point earlier. It is obviously a small sample size, but it appears to be isolated to just this detainment center thus far. If all of the staffers are vaccinated and the detainees haven't received the vaccine, those transmission numbers seem out of whack. You'd think patient zero would come in contact with more detainees than staffers, so the detainee infections would be much higher, but I could be way off if most of the detainees are actually vaccinated.
ETA: The booster shots, or lack thereof, may explain it, but again, you'd think the numbers would be incredibly high in the detainees. Maybe 7 is a very high percentage though, so who knows.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:27 pm to kingbob
quote:I'm pretty sure that most of the countries, at least in and around Central America, have decent vaccination rates, not much lower than our rates--although we are pretty poor by first world standards when it comes to vaccinations.
Pretty sure these make up only a tiny fraction of the unvaccinated. The real threat comes from massive waves of unvaccinated illegal 3rd world immigrants.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:31 pm to buckeye_vol
Mexico, yes. Not Honduras or Guatemala
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:41 pm to kingbob
quote:LINK. Well according to the WHO, Honduras and Guatemala had vaccination rate of 99 in 2015 for Measles Containing Vaccination 1 (MCV1) while we had a rate of 92. Although those countries have more variability from year to year
Mexico, yes. Not Honduras or Guatemala
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:42 pm to lsunurse
The resurgence is mainly due to the mass influx of illegals....book it
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