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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside

Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:10 am to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:10 am to
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Any information on why window was down in the first place?
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Gasser was givin JM directions
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:16 am to
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then why as a black person am I not tempted to pull a gun on a black dude at my window.


Have you ever had a black dude or any dude for that matter chase you for 5 miles, then pull up next to you in a none driving lane at a red light causing you to be blocked in, exit his vehicle, approach yours and try to enter through your passenger side window more than likely to either kill you or beat your arse?
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Statistics show that he should harm me right?


Yes. You're smarter than you think you are.


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m sounds like a way to excuse being a trigger happy pussy.


I take that back, I think I gave you too much credit
Posted by IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Arlington, TX
Member since Aug 2011
4516 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:53 am to
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Our justice system is designed to keep innocent people out of prison, not to catch all guilty people, and for that we should all be thankful.


Yeah, ok.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278500 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:55 am to
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Any information on why window was down in the first place?



it was a nice day
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85009 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:57 am to
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Yeah, ok.


Do you disagree? I mean crazy shite can happen and their are fricked up deals within the system, but the basis is that they have to prove you're guilty. You don't have to prove you're innocent.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59678 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:57 am to
Reports of past road rage is pointless to me
Unless he assaulted someone or endangered their lives on purpose. Which gasser never did
All he did was yell at someone and curse in the prior incident. Maybe this guy is sick of shitty drivers. Which is OK by me.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278500 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:04 am to
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Reports of past road rage is pointless to me



it's pretty pointless in a vacuum, when talking about his legal innocence.


however I no longer have any sympathy for the man. He clearly has a problem with his temper
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36424 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:10 am to
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Reports of past road rage is pointless to me
Unless he assaulted someone or endangered their lives on purpose. Which gasser never did
All he did was yell at someone and curse in the prior incident


Why do you have to lie to make your case? He was charged with battery that time and was accused of punching the other guy repeatedly.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:18 am to
JM was in the wrong, period. If he approached another person in an angry fashion who is sitting in his personal property, that person has a right to defend himself...by any means necessary

It sucks, but that's the story. JM should have known better. He wouldn't have done that shite in NY.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69110 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:24 am to
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Unless he assaulted someone or endangered their lives on purpose. Which gasser never did
All he did was yell at someone and curse in the prior incident.


Did you even read about the prior incident. A closed fist punch is yelling?

To all the people saying they would 100% shoot an aggressive man in their window, see the thread I just started about the man indicted for Murder 2 for doing just that.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19504 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:28 am to
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It sucks, but that's the story. JM should have known better. He wouldn't have done that shite in NY.




Actually, he would have done that in NYC and nothing would have happened other than the person he approached cussing back at him. After moving to Minneapolis in the 90's, I once told a coworker, there's a reason that we don't have a lot of road rage in the deep south......... because people will die.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33014 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:33 am to
Did the shooter in your other thread really go back with a gun after initially leaving the confrontation? If so, that's a significant difference in detail.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59678 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:33 am to
I read he was accused of battery
CNN had reported the same.


It's not illegal to be an a-hole

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59678 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:34 am to
I read he was accused of punching but it was dropped. Meaning maybe it didn't happen

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36424 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:35 am to
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I read he was accused of battery
CNN had reported the same.



Battery entails physical force and contact. This is really basic criminal law and you apparently don't know what it means.

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I read he was accused of punching but it was dropped. Meaning maybe it didn't happen


That's not the point. You were deliberately misrepresenting the facts to suit your argument.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 9:38 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
71180 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:37 am to
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You don't have to prove you're innocent.


That's not always the case with an affirmative defense.

The burden of proof is on the government if your defense was "I didn't do it". In some states (not sure if Louisiana is one), you have to prove your actions were justified if your defense is "I did it, but..."

Any lawyers in here who know how that applies in this case?
Posted by IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Arlington, TX
Member since Aug 2011
4516 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:38 am to
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Do you disagree? I mean crazy shite can happen and their are fricked up deals within the system, but the basis is that they have to prove you're guilty. You don't have to prove you're innocent.


Growing up black in Louisiana has taught me that your guilty until proven innocent. My uncle is twenty years in on a forty year sentence on a murder he didn't commit.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59678 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:40 am to
Your using a possibly made up battery situation to fit yours. How is that different.


Why wasnt he charged in 2006? Maybe it didn't happen. Maybe the guy is just an arse hole and someone finally pushed to the point where a tragedy happens.

Accused of battery doesn't mean it happened. I can call the police right now and report that you hit me with a closed fist. Doesn't mean you did it
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 9:42 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:07 am to
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however I no longer have any sympathy for the man. He clearly has a problem with his temper


Gasser or JM?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59678 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:13 am to
Both. It's a whole lot of stupid on both of them.


It's obvious gasser had anger issues. Seems in this scenario he met someone with more on that particular day.
He also comes across as possibly a crappy driver as he is the common denominator.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 10:14 am
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