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MBA or Master's in CM?
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:24 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:24 am
I'm currently in construction - outside sales, some project oversight. Salary is okay. Very flexible job. Great ancillary benefits (very respectable vacation package, huge vehicle allowance, etc.). I've got a fair amount of personal equity built.
But sometimes things are too flexible, if that's a problem. Not a lot of structure which sometimes causes others (my peers and their subordinates) to jack around. It's frustrating and I'm finding myself becoming slowly dried out. I'm having to really focus on staying motivated and I think it's because I'm slowly becoming disinterested.
Soooooooo...
I was thinking about returning to school for either of the aforementioned degrees. I don't think I see myself in construction much longer, but if the MSCM opens various doors for me then I could see myself staying in this arena. Alternatively, I've got a very good friend who's a director for a smaller but well-known global company who says MBAs are almost a prereq now (with his group). Candidates with them are not as few and far between as they used to be.
What say the OT?
MBA?
MSCM?
or
STFU, dry your pissy little eyes and go back to work?
But sometimes things are too flexible, if that's a problem. Not a lot of structure which sometimes causes others (my peers and their subordinates) to jack around. It's frustrating and I'm finding myself becoming slowly dried out. I'm having to really focus on staying motivated and I think it's because I'm slowly becoming disinterested.
Soooooooo...
I was thinking about returning to school for either of the aforementioned degrees. I don't think I see myself in construction much longer, but if the MSCM opens various doors for me then I could see myself staying in this arena. Alternatively, I've got a very good friend who's a director for a smaller but well-known global company who says MBAs are almost a prereq now (with his group). Candidates with them are not as few and far between as they used to be.
What say the OT?
MBA?
MSCM?
or
STFU, dry your pissy little eyes and go back to work?
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:25 am to Genius_Mofo
First, post on the correct board.
Then,
Then,
quote:
STFU, dry your pissy little eyes and go back to work
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:25 am to Genius_Mofo
Well, piss. I RA'd for a move.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:25 am to Genius_Mofo
If you aren't going to stay in construction, go MBA. Meet lots of people and connect to them. You can find a new profession if you make sure to go to events put on and connect to employers who will drop in looking for candidates for new positions.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:26 am to SouthOfSouth
Online MBA at LSUS. Less than $17,000 for program and you'll be done in 13 months.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:31 am to Genius_Mofo
MBA...without question. Opens up a lot of doors in different areas. Best move I ever made.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:32 am to Paul Allen
quote:The MSCM isn't much different. Both programs are easily accessible and negligible in cost. I know that LSU's MSCM program is among the best nationwide, but I don't how much it translates past that. I've never met anyone who's completed it.
Online MBA at LSUS. Less than $17,000 for program and you'll be done in 13 months.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:38 am to Genius_Mofo
Master's in CM? I didn't even know there was such a thing. What's the purpose of it?
If I had to pick one, MBA by a country mile. You might also benefit from a move to a different company more than that
If I had to pick one, MBA by a country mile. You might also benefit from a move to a different company more than that
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:44 am to Genius_Mofo
Definitely not a MSCM. Only do an MBA if you can get into a very good school. I'm talking about a top 20 school. If not it is pretty worthless. I have an MBA and I've found it not very helpful.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:44 am to Hammertime
I've actually probed around at a move, but so far it looks like I'll end up losing either money or the flexibility I enjoy. If I'm going to go back to school, this is the place to do it.
But you're right - if I'm not going to pursue school then I likely can't stay here much longer.
But you're right - if I'm not going to pursue school then I likely can't stay here much longer.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:47 am to Paul Allen
quote:
Online MBA at LSUS. Less than $17,000 for program and you'll be done in 13 months.
Personally for a guy trying to get into a different field I'd suggest going the route that will actually get him in front of employers. You can't hold multiple MBA's so you will be stuck with an LSUS online as your MBA. lol
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:01 am to Genius_Mofo
Do you know what the CM masters would consist of? Is there a specific concentration that it would give you?
I think the MBA would probably be a better route.
I think the MBA would probably be a better route.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:06 am to Genius_Mofo
If you're staying in construction (assuming your undergrad isn't CM), go with the online masters program in CM. Most of it can be done online with very little time in the classroom. It's a great, hands-on program, with minimal filler bullshite. It's generally very practical knowledge taught by people who used to (or sometimes still do) those jobs for a living.
If you're wanting to get out of construction or had a bachelors in CM, go with the Executive MBA. You get all of the connections from a regular program with only slightly more inconvenience than doing it online. However, unless your company is pretty much saying that they won't advance you without it OR companies you want to interview for are requiring it, it's probably not worth it. However, if it's on the company dime, it's always a good investment.
If you're wanting to get out of construction or had a bachelors in CM, go with the Executive MBA. You get all of the connections from a regular program with only slightly more inconvenience than doing it online. However, unless your company is pretty much saying that they won't advance you without it OR companies you want to interview for are requiring it, it's probably not worth it. However, if it's on the company dime, it's always a good investment.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:08 am to BigPerm30
quote:
Only do an MBA if you can get into a very good school. I'm talking about a top 20 school. If not it is pretty worthless. I have an MBA and I've found it not very helpful.
This is quite possibly the worst advice I've ever seen.
Besides the foolishness that employers somehow DON'T want you to have more education, saying that there's no benefit outside of the Top 20 schools is ridiculous.
27-34 in Bloomberg's Best Business Schools:
BYU
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
UC-Irvine
SMU
Michigan State
Ohio State
Yeah - an MBA from one of those schools won't open a door or two....
I have an MBA from an SEC school out of the Top 100 and it's been wildly beneficial for me.
To the OP, as long as you get your MBA from a recognizable brick and mortar school and not Southern Western New Hampshire Governor's Tech University (or other obvious diploma mill - and you don't sink a fortune into the degree) I can't see how it will hurt you.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:25 am to brodeo
quote:
online
quote:Huh?
hands-on program
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:27 am to BigPerm30
quote:
Only do an MBA if you can get into a very good school. I'm talking about a top 20 school. If not it is pretty worthless. I have an MBA and I've found it not very helpful.
Holy frick, do not listen to this.
Recognizable school for an MBA can open doors across tons of industries.
A lot of online ones appear as "brick and mortar" and offer the same curriculum. The diploma, your resume, etc. all appear as brick and mortar would.
ETA:
My company is paying me to get mine and I'll probably do Auburn's online one or something like that. I could get into Vandy's or Belmont's but those go way over the allotment my company is willing to pay for. I could finish Auburn's and be only 5k in debt for an MBA from a very recognizable school with a large alumni base in my area.
If you have an MBA and don't find it useful, you either got it at University of Phoenix or you have other issues that employers don't like.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:30 am to TheCaterpillar
Is LSUS considered a Western Governers, Southern New Hampshire type of degree mill?
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:31 am to Paul Allen
quote:
Is LSUS considered a Western Governers, Southern New Hampshire type of degree mill?
I have no idea.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:45 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:
A lot of online ones appear as "brick and mortar" and offer the same curriculum. The diploma, your resume, etc. all appear as brick and mortar would.
At Mississippi State, the online program had higher entry requirements than the full time program. In some classes, some professors required more work, because I wasn't being washed in the physical glow of their awesomeness twice a week.
It required A LOT of discipline to get it done - especially to do it in five consecutive semesters (including summers.)
quote:
If you have an MBA and don't find it useful, you either got it at University of Phoenix or you have other issues that employers don't like.
That's my guess.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:49 am to Genius_Mofo
Not sure where you live but I did the Professional MBA program at LSU it is two nights a week, two classes a semester, one in the summer takes 2 1/2 years not too bad good for someone who works full time.
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