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re: Mandeville to consider banning smoking in bars
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:14 am to t00f
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:14 am to t00f
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Should not have to breath it or be subjected to not going someplace due to smokers.
Maybe you should avoid places that allow smoking, that way you don't force your sensitivity on other people.
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Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:14 am to wildtigercat93
quote:
Don't go to places that allow smoking. Problem solved.
I don't. I already solved that problem.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:15 am to Honky Lips
quote:Jesus Christ you people are dumb
Non smokers have rights too.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe you should avoid places that allow smoking, that way you don't force your sensitivity on other people.
Like I said, don't go into smoking places unless I am with a group and it is what it is.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:15 am to Honky Lips
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So as a non smoker, I don't have the freedom to patronize any business I please? Got i
WTF?
Sure you do. You can go, or not go. You still have a choice.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:15 am to TigernMS12
Does a non-smoker have a right to demand that someone take the financial risk to open a bar and then tell that owner how he should run his business? If the owner wants to serve only customers that are okay with smoking, why should a non-smoker be able to use government to force the owner to not allow smoking? It's his damn business. He doesn't want or need the militant non-smoker's business.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:16 am to Honky Lips
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So as a non smoker, I don't have the freedom to patronize any business I please? Got it.
No one is disallowing you to go there. They simply offer a service that doesn't appeal to you so you can freely choose to go to another bar
Should we ban gay bars too since they don't appeal to what I like? Why should I not be allowed to patronize that bar without gay men and women all around me?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:16 am to t00f
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don't. I already solved that problem.
So you're whining about a problem that doesn't exist
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:17 am to wildtigercat93
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Should we ban gay bars too since they don't appeal to what I like?
health issue not a subjective issue.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:17 am to JOJO Hammer
quote:And smokers have the right to go outside and smoke. Why can't you understand that?
You do not have to go to bars that allow smoking. Why can't you understand that?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:18 am to t00f
quote:
health issue not a subjective issue.
Drinking is just as much a health issue as smoking. You're at a bar chugging IPAs telling people they are doing harm to their bodies by smoking
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:18 am to wildtigercat93
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So you're whining about a problem that doesn't exist
No, I agree with the regulation change, WTF.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:19 am to Honky Lips
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Also, I'm about 80% libertarian but this is one issue where I don't care about "rights." Non smokers have rights too.
Agreed, I have the right to not be around things I don't like. And if I don't like something then legally other people should have to not do that thing I don't like. That's how freedom works.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:19 am to wildtigercat93
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rinking is just as much a health issue as smoking. You're at a bar chugging IPAs telling people they are doing harm to their bodies by smoking
Not sure how me drinking a beer has potential health issues for someone else.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:20 am to Honky Lips
What in hell is there to consider? This should happen everywhere.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:20 am to mikrit54
quote:It's a public health issue, you fricking reprobate. The EPA passes laws all the time about vehicle exhaust and manufacturing emissions because they're gross and dangerous to others.
Privately owned, then I should make my own rule about smoking. You don't have to patronize my business.
This is the same thing.
On top of all that, smoking is trashy as the frick and I'm glad Mandeville is trying to maintain a level of class that will cut down on cigarette butt litter and the overall low-brow appearance that comes with smoking.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:21 am to Honky Lips
I don't know why people get so up in arms over this.
Other cities all over the U.S. have enacted smoking bans in bars YEARS ago...and the bars are still open and thriving.
Other cities all over the U.S. have enacted smoking bans in bars YEARS ago...and the bars are still open and thriving.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:21 am to bconne1
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And smokers have the right to go outside and smoke. Why can't you understand that?
It should be the decision of a private business to decide what they will allow and not allow on their own premises.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:21 am to bconne1
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And smokers have the right to go outside and smoke. Why can't you understand that?
Of course. For businesses that don't allow smoking, the people can go outside if they wish to smoke.
If a business owner wishes to allow smoking in his place of business, it should be allowed. Why can't you understand that.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 11:22 am to bconne1
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And smokers have the right to go outside and smoke. Why can't you understand that?
You have an odd concept of rights. You think you have a "right" to be in a private business. You don't, you can get kicked out at any time for any reason
You think if a bar allows smoking then it violates your "right" to be in a business. But that business has not removed you from their place, you have willingly left
Ironically you want the bar to literally remove smokers outside to smoke, which would seem to violate in the same concept in which you feel you've had violated (which is also wrong because patronizing a bar isn't a right)
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