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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Did the cops lie about the machine gun or were they really looking for a machine gun? [/quote]I think it was hearsay. Just the rawest of the belief that one may be there. In fact, one was never located. A bunch of other stuff was, though. My apologies. I'm about 15 minutes in on an Amb...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]And you've still yet to cite a single case stating that lying to gain consent is valid. [/quote]Try US v. Davis? Police ask to look for a "machine gun." Davis says "sure, come look for a machine gun." No machine guns were found, but other guns were. Davis, a convicted felon, was found t...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]From People v. Reeves (1964) 61 Cal.2nd 268 - [/quote]You should read the facts of that case. From the onset an illegal search of person's body was conducted. Then the investigators cited some plain-view bull shite to gain entry into a hotel room when no consent was given. "Martin test...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]It's your problem if it wasn't given freely, and courts have found that when a cop lies about what he is searching for the consent isn't freely given. [/quote]Again, it was not a means of gathering innocuous items to build a case. I asked to search for stolen loose gemstones (contraband) an...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]You can keep lying to yourself, but a lawyer would've torn you apart on the stand for what you're saying. They consented to a search for "stolen gems" when no such thing ever existed. They agreed to a search under false pretenses, making your search invalid. [/quote]It was challenged, as I s...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Troll arse frick [/quote]Cue the ad hominem tactics. You're better than this. Don't be that person....
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Needs his arse beat for all the people he framed. [/quote]Framed?! That's a stretch. Again, I asked to search for contraband. Very often, contraband was found (stolen weapons, drugs, whatever). Hardly a frame....
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]There's your problem. [/quote]Not my problem. [i]Their[/i] problem. They freely consented. What's hard to understand about that? I asked for consent to search for contraband. Sometimes I found contraband. ...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]But when officers receive consent to search for narcotics and then also search for and seize currency and exchange receipts, insurance policies, loan receipts, and certificates of title to real estate, the officers have misused the limited consent as a license to conduct a general exploratory...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Why are you trying to link a municipal case? You said SCOTUS has decided the issue twice. [/quote]Ah, poor communication. My bad. It was argued in municipal court at least twice in searches that led to arrests that I made. I went back and reread my post, and I can see where it was uncle...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]In an earlier 9th Circuit case, the court disapproved of the entry of federal agents into a home that was accomplished with the assistance of local police officers. The local officers requested to enter to investigate a fictitious burglary. The officers used this ruse in order to gain access ...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Spent a few minutes reviewing your posts, you don't troll, in fact most of your posts are mild. why are you here? You have posted in the live pd before but not like this. I question your motives. If you are a cop here is this: it takes a stupid frick to catch a stupid frick. That's why ...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]You understand YOU are the reason people target cops. [/quote]Because Tyrone McShitbone gave me lawful consent? I disagree, but you're certainly entitled to your opinion....
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Link to both cases please? [/quote]I wouldn't begin to know how to link to municipal cases from a decade ago. A quick Google search will, in fact, let you know that deception (provided it wouldn't harm an innocent person) is 100% legal. [link=(http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-right...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]No, you manipulated people for your own gain. Remember that shit, karma is a bitch. When someone fricks you up I hope you get no justice. You are what is wrong with law enforcement.[/quote]What did I gain, exactly? We weren't paid per arrest....
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Funny, they always ask for the driver to be honest with them and tell them if there's anything in the car, but they are quick to lie through their teeth to obtain consent to search. [/quote]Cat and mouse, my dude. Cat and mouse....
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]300 post in 10 years please take your trolling somewhere else [/quote]I was banned for many, many years. I only just got reinstated....
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Yeah, lying to people to violate their constitutional rights is very honorable, constable. What a POS. [/quote]What right was violated? Their 4th Amendment was waived (by them), but not violated. Again, it's just sour grapes that a lowly civil servant can outthink someone....
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Any lawyer could have that thrown out, unfortunately the ones you took advantage of didn't have the best lawyer [/quote]SCOTUS says police can lie if an otherwise lawful individual wouldn't be harmed. It was challenged at least twice that I can remember, and neither time was it considered ...
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re: Live PD Thread- A&E - bconne1
[quote]Yeah, that is fricked up. [/quote]Or one could, you know, refuse to give consent....
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