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re: Man stabs a group of young people as they assault him for looking for his phone in river
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:34 pm to Northshore Aggie
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:34 pm to Northshore Aggie
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well if that's the case, then i guess i retract my statement about leaning towards self defense.
Why? He was being surrounded and pulled out the utility knife he had with him. He didn't use it until he was attacked. He didn't brandish it in a threatening manner. He held it in his hand, by his side, in case he needed to use it.
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:35 pm to CatfishJohn
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Drunk teenagers with a pack mentality are fricking dangerous.
I would have pulled a knife on those screaming hyenas as well.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:35 pm to MFn GIMP
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He was so threatening to them that they were openly mocking him and laughing.
yeah i just watched it again, and i'm taking back my take-back. even if he ran up on them at the beginning of the video for whatever reason, he was clearly not a threat immediately after that. they then started to encircle him and yell, getting closer and closer to him. so even if that is the point that he pulled the knife, that seems perfectly reasonable as a defensive measure.
i'm back on team self defense. but it is still a really weird series of events in the video.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:39 pm to Northshore Aggie
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i'm back on team self defense. but it is still a really weird series of events in the video.
Yeah, most of the decisions made here don’t make a ton of sense.
I guess that’s true almost anytime someone gets killed by someone else.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:45 pm to Dadren
all of this is really strange all around.
bunch dumb decisions one after another from every group.
wish we had video of what happened a minute or 2 before all of this.
bunch dumb decisions one after another from every group.
wish we had video of what happened a minute or 2 before all of this.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
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WOw, this situation really sucks.
I dont know why the hell you would ever joke about pedaphilia that is not a joke to 98% of people.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:57 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I’ve been watching the trial.
The 2 white trash brothers showed up with their buddy that got disemboweled and escalated everything.
The 2 white trash brothers showed up with their buddy that got disemboweled and escalated everything.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:59 pm to Dadren
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it is still a really weird series of events in the video.
Yeah, most of the decisions made here don’t make a ton of sense.
Everyone is drunk.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:59 pm to jizzle6609
well the black dude on the stand admitted he made up the story about him taking pics of the girls to 'rile everyone up'.
but those morons in this thread keep defending these teenage pieces of shite. FAFO indeed.
but those morons in this thread keep defending these teenage pieces of shite. FAFO indeed.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:03 pm to chryso
quote:At first I thought the same
I don't understand why this is even going to trial.
Apparently, he didn’t simply just look for a phone. He reached into the kids pockets and such “looking for the phone”
Still don’t think there is anyway he is guilty
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:05 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Watching the video man...I don't know.
It looks like he easily could have walked away, there wasn't like 5 guys just all pummeling him on the ground. It was bizarre series of events from him.
A lot more questionable than the OP makes it seem imo
It looks like he easily could have walked away, there wasn't like 5 guys just all pummeling him on the ground. It was bizarre series of events from him.
A lot more questionable than the OP makes it seem imo
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:06 pm to JPLSU1981
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Seems pretty clear this will be a Not Guilty.
It should be. Best I can tell from watching 5 days of the trial is the judge is showing a lot of favoritism to the DA
The facts show it was self defense. Especially when yellow shorts guy was trying to push his head under water.
There are 2 groups. The high school kids and the white trash krewe that injected themselves in the matter. If they mind their own business, everyone goes home.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:09 pm to Rebel
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The facts show it was self defense. Especially when yellow shorts guy was trying to push his head under water.
This was my first time watching this video (without sound) and I guess I am just missing it. He acted bizarrely and it certainly seemed to me he could have gotten out of that situation fairly easily.
I expected like 5 guys just absolutely pummeling him and he as to come out swinging with his knife.
I didn't see his life being in danger, but I guess I have to watch it again.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:10 pm to Fun Bunch
He should have simply just left
But legally speaking, he doesn’t have to
But legally speaking, he doesn’t have to
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:13 pm to lsupride87
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A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.
I have a hard time believing the last just based on the video.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:16 pm to lsupride87
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He should have simply just left
But legally speaking, he doesn’t have to
Isn't this in Wisconsin?
They don't have a stand your ground law, and he wasn't in his swelling or MV or place of business.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:17 pm to Fun Bunch
Getting pushed down in water and punched in the face while lying in water absolutely to me meets that requirement
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:18 pm to Fun Bunch
The 2 brothers are beating him while their disemboweled friend kept trying to force his head under water.
3 guys physically assaulting you in a body of water while 10 others yell like a pack of hyenas.
What more has to happen before you think he has a right to defend himself?
3 guys physically assaulting you in a body of water while 10 others yell like a pack of hyenas.
What more has to happen before you think he has a right to defend himself?
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:19 pm to bogart
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I understand the kids were drinking but why were they calling him a pedophile and raper? Was it just because he had the goggles on and was looking under the water?
They thought he was snorkeling under the water to look at the girls on the tubes.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:22 pm to CAD703X
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well the black dude on the stand admitted he made up the story about him taking pics of the girls to 'rile everyone up'.
but those morons in this thread keep defending these teenage pieces of shite. FAFO indeed.
The dude told a bunch of other dudes who are drinking that an older man is taking pictures of girls. You would only say that to incite some sort of reaction from the guys.
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