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re: Making people go to the eye doctor every time they need new contacts is a joke

Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:44 am to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:44 am to
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I see just fine with my current contacts, all I need is another couple of boxes of the exact same lenses. Why do I have to spend the unnecessary time and money to get a new Rx?


I only have to go once every 12-18 months to get re checked. Sorry your hippy friendly Tejas sucks arse
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:16 am to
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Posted by baybeefeetz Is there not a black market? Should be. Maybe some Chinese shite?


I bought some from Canada thru the interwebs. They took a little while to get here but they made it.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 7:35 am
Posted by VanRIch
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Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:31 am to
They said I'm not eligible for LASIK. I'm hoping soon they come out with a procedure for people deemed not eligible.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:33 am to
You don't, just order online
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:34 am to
You can probably place some of the blame on the lawyers.

We know that the prescription changes over time.

Let's say that you have an accident because you couldn't see as well but the doc had just renewed your rx indicating that that's what you should be using. Or there is some other eye condition that's developed within the past year in which contacts are contraindicated and thus will either exacerbate the condition or cause other damage. Both scenarios seem like a good opportunity for those ridiculous lawsuits you always hear about.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:39 am to
Most medical insurance plans cover eye health exams from an ophthalmologist (MD) for just your copay. They can check you for all sorts of eye diseases plus they update your Rx as part of the exam.

Imo, it is worth the time especially if any sort of eye disease runs in your family.

Personally I make sure to get a yearly physical, eye exam, dermatologist exam bc
1. I believe it is a good preventive thing
2. You are paying a good bit for health insurance so you might as well get some services for it.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 7:43 am
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37250 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:08 am to
How do you improperly wear contacts?

Eta: I kept reading. I've slept with my contacts in for years now. Sometimes I'll go a month without even taking them out and cleaning them. Never have I had a single problem.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 8:11 am
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:12 am to
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How do you improperly wear contacts?



Leaving them in for a longer than you're supposed to, wearing them after the length of time you're supposed to dispose of them, wearing them without properly cleaning them, wearing them after they've been in a lens case that hasn't had its solution replaced often enough.... etc....
Posted by prplhze2000
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Member since Jan 2007
51405 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:14 am to
I wear gas perms. Damn right I go.
Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
6962 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:22 am to
Just do what I do and wear a pair until they hurt. One box has lasted me 1 1/2 years.


quote:

Leaving them in for a longer than you're supposed to, wearing them after the length of time you're supposed to dispose of them, wearing them without properly cleaning them, wearing them after they've been in a lens case that hasn't had its solution replaced often enough.... etc....


Lol. What a pussy.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 8:24 am
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
57686 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:24 am to
I had to switch to dailies because my eyes dry out too fast. More expensive but well worth it. Just chunk em after each day.
Posted by tiger91
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:56 am to
Here in our small town the guy at the discount place will honor the current rx as long as we feel we can still see! lol My kids have said "mom, these aren't working anymore" and know that they need to at least get checked.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:10 am to
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The family practitioner doesn't call the patient or bring him in to make sure he took the prescribed medicine correctly or is using a CPAP machine correctly. I'm not sure why many are trying to imply that this is the normal course of behavior in the medical community.


The frick? Of course family docs/internists have their patients come in to make sure the meds they're prescribed are helping. People with diabetes go for bloodwork/HgBA1C checks, people with hypertension get their blood pressure checked, etc, etc.

Having patients come in for yearly eye exams in order to get a new contact lens prescription is part of health maintenance. It's really not because we have to see you again to prescribe your contacts to you. Some eye diseases can be asymptomatic, and can only be detected with an eye exam. So, we recommend yearly checkups. However, if I have a patient that simply refuses to come in, and on the last exam they were healthy and showed no signs of any other eye problems; I'll usually renew their contact lens script.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:13 am to
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Sometimes I'll go a month without even taking them out and cleaning them. Never have I had a single problem.


You're lucky. It's really not recommended to do this. Some people smoke for years and never get lung cancer/heart disease. Just because you've never had a problem doesn't mean you won't. And if you get an infection in the central part of your cornea, you'll wish you'd had taken the 30 seconds the night before to remove your lenses.
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:17 am to
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It's really not because we have to see you again to prescribe your contacts to you.


Exactly. In the same way that the family practitioner doesn't need to see the patient so that he can order filters for his CPAP machine. Pointing to things like hypertension or high powered pain medicine as people in this thread have done are just false comparisons. The proof is in the pudding. Name all ways in which blood pressure medicine and opiates are comparable to contact lenses. Nowhere near the same thing.

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Of course family docs/internists have their patients come in to make sure the meds they're prescribed are helping.


My comment that you took out of context was responding to the idea that the exams are necessary (not just that they are a good idea) to ensure that contacts are being worn properly. My comment (which is true) is that a doctor's office doesn't call patients to make sure that he used the antibiotics correctly--for some reason you conflated that with making sure medicine is working. The standard procedure is that the patient goes back to the doctor if he doesn't get better--no one checks to make sure the prescription was used as directed without a prompt. Arguing that a yearly checkup should be mandated through the withholding of the ability to purchase contacts because the ECP needs to ensure the contacts are being worn properly puts ECPs out of the mainstream of other health professionals.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 10:03 am
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:52 am to
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Name all ways in which blood pressure medicine and opiates are comparable to contact lenses.


I didn't make the opiate comparison, but as for blood pressure meds...you can get your own blood pressure machine or go to a pharmacy and check it yourself to make sure that your blood pressure is under control. But your PCP is still going to want to see you every year before you get that script refilled. However, not unlike your eye health, there are potential issues that can arise in people with hypertension that they can't recognize on their own.

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My comment (which is true) is that a doctor's office doesn't call patients to make sure that he used the antibiotics correctly


Antibiotics aren't typically used chronically. In the cases they are, then you will definitely get a call from the doctors office to schedule revisits. Why? Using prescribed things (pills, contact lenses, etc) can cause adverse effects that the lay person may not be able to detect on his/her own. If you only wanted to wear contacts for a week to 10 days like a typical antibiotic prescription, I wouldn't call you back in for another exam either.

As I've said though, if patients really do refuse to come in, and they've had no issues with their eye exams in the past, I don't withhold contact lens prescriptions.


Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:59 am to
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Antibiotics aren't typically used chronically. In the cases they are, then you will definitely get a call from the doctors office to schedule revisits. Why? Using prescribed things (pills, contact lenses, etc) can cause adverse effects that the lay person may not be able to detect on his/her own. If you only wanted to wear contacts for a week to 10 days like a typical antibiotic prescription, I wouldn't call you back in for another exam either.


Again, the example is to illustrate that the HCP does not check to make sure that the item is being used correctly. I am specifically responding to that contention. Your examples about adverse effects that HCP may check up on does not speak to correct usage. The argument that withholding the ability to purchase contacts is necessary to ensure proper use is hogwash. Since you don't appear to disagree with that assertion, it looks like we're in agreement.
Posted by Jet12
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:05 am to
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I had to switch to dailies because my eyes dry out too fast. More expensive but well worth it. Just chunk em after each day.

If I kept getting denied for LASIK, I was gonna head that route. But thankfully in a week and a half I won't have to bother with contacts or glasses anymore.
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:10 am to
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They said I'm not eligible for LASIK. I'm hoping soon they come out with a procedure for people deemed not eligible.

What's wrong with your eyes, if I may ask?

I got turned down by a few clinics because of the weird shape of my corneas. I always had slight astigmatism that wasn't a problem until I did the pre-LASIK exams. They almost thought I had a degenerative disease that causes the weird shape (keratoconus) that you can't get LASIK with. I finally found a doctor who was comfortable with doing my eyes since he's the only doctor in the state with the treatment for LASIK-caused degeneration (ectasia). The technology really is moving along.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:26 am to
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The argument that withholding the ability to purchase contacts is necessary to ensure proper use is hogwash.


I agree. I haven't read anything in this thread that suggests eye docs are checking to make sure that you're using them properly. Even if one wanted to, there's no way of verifying it.
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