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re: LSU law vs Tulane law
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:09 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:09 pm to SabiDojo
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I just think making a decision solely based on tuition/loan costs can be a big mistake.
Agreed. A whole host of considerations should be dealt with. However, it looks like he's got some major ones out of the way: Cost and location (both of the school and where he wants to practice).
You need to make sure that you can succeed wherever you go. LSU will have a lot of bright kids there, but a lot will be of moderate intelligence, some will be stupid as shite, and a good number will be lazy as frick such that, even if they are intelligent, they won't do all that well. If you are intelligent and present a good work ethic, you will have a decent chance of succeeding at LSU, though you won't really know until you get there since you won't be able to look at how you write and how it jibes with the professors.
Southern's best and brightest are on par with LSU's, but LSU has probably double the highly intelligent folks that Southern has. Maybe more. And I mean that sincerely. I knew a good number of people who went to Southern. They weren't stupid, but they were toward the top of their class and were not exactly MENSA candidates. It is a worse school in terms of the quality of student. Period. But it does have faculty that know the law like any other faculty and, if you are willing to work, you can do well there. Maybe better than well.
All that said, I don't really think you have much of a question at this point. Given where you want to practice and the costs involved, and given that you seem moderately intelligent at least, if you go in with your head on right you should do fine at LSU. Put it this way, I would think you have a better shot at being the number 1 in your class at LSU than you would at being the number 1 in your class at Tulane and since you only want to practice in BR or NOLA, there is no point in taking on crushing debt when being number 1 at Tulane presents no better opportunities for you than being number 1 at LSU in either BR or NOLA.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:12 pm to PrideofTheSEC
Congrats on your acceptance.
What will you be getting from Tulane Law in exchange for the much higher tuition? Basically, you are buying access to their alumni. If you want to practice Big Law in the northeast, that access might be worth a lot.
But I know a lot of law school grads looking for work. 200K of law school debt would scare the tar out of me.
What will you be getting from Tulane Law in exchange for the much higher tuition? Basically, you are buying access to their alumni. If you want to practice Big Law in the northeast, that access might be worth a lot.
But I know a lot of law school grads looking for work. 200K of law school debt would scare the tar out of me.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:14 pm to PrideofTheSEC
Have you gotten your scholarship info yet from either? On the OT, people seem to assume that people generally pay full sticker, and that influences their comments.
If you get 35K per year from Tulane, that certainly changes things, even though it would cost 12k per year more than LSU.
However since you said you'd rather practice in South LA, LSU is probably the better choice. How sure are you that you want to be in South LA for the rest of your life? That thought would make me strongly consider getting a prescription for anti-depressants.
If you get 35K per year from Tulane, that certainly changes things, even though it would cost 12k per year more than LSU.
However since you said you'd rather practice in South LA, LSU is probably the better choice. How sure are you that you want to be in South LA for the rest of your life? That thought would make me strongly consider getting a prescription for anti-depressants.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
Who the frick wants to live in the northeast?
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:15 pm to theronswanson
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Couldn't get into Southern, eh?
True story - I couldn't.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:16 pm to Keys Open Doors
Tulane offered me half. They may offer OP the same.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:18 pm to SabiDojo
Right, I think until the info comes out, it's too early to make a decision. Also, there is no point in signing a deposit check until the last minute. The offers get a lot better magically on April 8, if deposits are due on Tax Day
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:36 pm to PrideofTheSEC
Haven't read all the responses. But I was in your same position and I went to Tulane.
GO TO LSU. Lived that choice and it was the wrong one and my monthly loan bill can attest.
Unless you really like blow and Jewish girls who love to frick southern guys.
GO TO LSU. Lived that choice and it was the wrong one and my monthly loan bill can attest.
Unless you really like blow and Jewish girls who love to frick southern guys.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:38 pm to Jackie Chan
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I would go to LSU to avoid getting into debt. This is LSU vs Tulane. not LSU vs Harvard.
This
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:39 pm to PrideofTheSEC
LSU is sending a lot of students to the bigger texas markets now. If you are planning to stay in La or want to practice in Texas, LSU is the cheaper option and affords a comparable education with comparable opportunities in those markets. If you want to practice in DC/Chicago/NY, Tulane is your best bet.
Regardless, make damn sure you graduate at the top of your class if you want a job.
Regardless, make damn sure you graduate at the top of your class if you want a job.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:41 pm to sealawyer
I'm in a serious relationship so no need for the crazy Jewish women lol and I won't get any money from tulane. Honestly I'm not even sure how I got in. I made a 157 on the lsat.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:44 pm to PrideofTheSEC
If you don't get any money, go to LSU.
But you might be surprised by the way scholarships are decided. They're very random.
But you might be surprised by the way scholarships are decided. They're very random.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:52 pm to PrideofTheSEC
LSU is a better law school
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:13 pm to Saints123
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If you want to stay in Louisiana LSU is the best bet. If you want to live in another state after you graduate you should go to Tulane.
Yep.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:40 pm to PrideofTheSEC
As someone who will be making a choice like this very soon. I'm going with the option that gives me the least amount of debt.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:52 pm to LoveThatMoney
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I just think making a decision solely based on tuition/loan costs can be a big mistake.
Sure, though i went to LSU Law on scholly, and graduated debt free, while undergrad roomie went to Tulane, and owed just under $200K upon graduation. Looooooong time paying that off.
Bar Stats from this year:
JULY 2014
LSU (81.50%)
LOYOLA (72.68%)
SOUTHERN (56.25%)
TULANE (77.78%)
Other (64.43%)
TOTAL:(69.82%)
I think Tulane has beaten LSU's bar passage rate once, in the history of Bar exams, which prompted much wailing and gnashing of teeth at LSU, and maybe even a chancellor change. Why pay more for a lesser chance of practicing? Can you imagine going to school for 3 years, incurring all that debt, and not being able to practice?!?! Yikes!
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 4:18 pm to Mung
Are you going to practice law in Louisiana outside of New Orleans? If so, LSU with a bullet.
Are you going to practice law exclusively in New Orleans? A Tulane degree would help here, but not if you have to borrow significantly to get it.
Are you thinking about Houston? I personally think LSU has a far stronger network there among major firms than does Tulane.
Do you want to practice in the Northeast? Are you grades likely to be pretty good? Then you'd be in ok shape with Tulane and the debt provided the legal market isn't particularly soft when you graduate (which no one can predict).
I know you say you want to be in "BR/NOLA area," but that covers a lot of ground, and you really don't know that yet.
I am an LSU grad. I hire from both.
Are you going to practice law exclusively in New Orleans? A Tulane degree would help here, but not if you have to borrow significantly to get it.
Are you thinking about Houston? I personally think LSU has a far stronger network there among major firms than does Tulane.
Do you want to practice in the Northeast? Are you grades likely to be pretty good? Then you'd be in ok shape with Tulane and the debt provided the legal market isn't particularly soft when you graduate (which no one can predict).
I know you say you want to be in "BR/NOLA area," but that covers a lot of ground, and you really don't know that yet.
I am an LSU grad. I hire from both.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 4:40 pm to JudgeHolden
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Are you going to practice law in Louisiana outside of New Orleans? If so, LSU with a bullet.
Are you going to practice law exclusively in New Orleans? A Tulane degree would help here, but not if you have to borrow significantly to get it.
Are you thinking about Houston? I personally think LSU has a far stronger network there among major firms than does Tulane.
Do you want to practice in the Northeast? Are you grades likely to be pretty good? Then you'd be in ok shape with Tulane and the debt provided the legal market isn't particularly soft when you graduate (which no one can predict).
I know you say you want to be in "BR/NOLA area," but that covers a lot of ground, and you really don't know that yet.
I am an LSU grad. I hire from both.
This is a good breakdown. Both schools have their advantages in some legal markets, but it's pretty much a wash as far as getting hired by law firms in Louisiana. As I said earlier, just make sure you graduate near the top of your class and you should have offers from Baton Rouge/NOLA law firms.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 4:57 pm to PrideofTheSEC
Not sure how it works with law, but I've heard (and seen) that employers appreciate a candidate that chooses different universities for Bachelor and post-Bachelor education.
Again, not sure how it is with law
Again, not sure how it is with law
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