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re: Louisiana death rate for corona is 3 times NY rate

Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72198 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:05 pm to
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Again, extrapolation and the understanding metro testing far outweighs the rural availability may be leading to a death rate you can't even have substantiated now. So, actually, I'll just ask this: Do you trust any of the data and if you do, why?

What the frick are you talking about?

The number of tests performed is completely irrelevant to this entire situation.

This is literally the number of deaths per population.

There are no data points missing here.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:10 pm to

Hold up. Birx and Fauci are stating that testing is absolutely critical to the understanding scope of COVID-19 penetration. That includes recovery as well as death. The Death Toll coincides with knowing who is and who is not infected.

How is testing and a death toll not related? In your professional opinion, of course...
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48331 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:15 pm to
Meh.

The gap is already closing. It’s just a function of them being such a larger state. If spread starts around the same time in both states and its exponentially growing at the same rate, the state with the lower population is going to have a higher per capita for a while.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:28 pm to
Hospitalization and ventilators taken are the only relevant statistics to follow as we go through the next couple of weeks.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72198 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:36 pm to
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How is testing and a death toll not related? In your professional opinion, of course...
Oh my god.

This thread is about DEATHS PER CAPITA.

Which literally deals with only two data points.

1. Deaths due to the Wuhan virus.

2. Population
quote:

Birx and Fauci are stating that testing is absolutely critical to the understanding scope of COVID-19 penetration. That includes recovery as well as death. The Death Toll coincides with knowing who is and who is not infected.
Again, that all has zero to do with the thread.

None of that would have an impact on DEATHS PER CAPITA, unless you believe that the testing is so inadequate in NYC that the deaths are significantly higher, thus making the deaths per capita equal.

You are arguing points that have nothing to do with this thread or the stats within.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:38 pm to

No shite, Trapper John, MD. Just forget it. God help your patients.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72198 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:39 pm to
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No shite, Trapper John, MD. Just forget it. God help your patients.
Then what are you even arguing here?

You bring up the merit of testing asymptomatic carriers in regards to a statistic that isn’t impacted by that at all.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 6:43 pm
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4867 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:41 pm to
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This is death per capita, not case fatality rate.


How many of these "dead" people are really dead though. Its a bullshite metric, I say.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:42 pm to
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Meh.

The gap is already closing. It’s just a function of them being such a larger state.


Also New Orleans spread could have been much farther along than NYC when each were caught.

The more we test the more it seems Nola was practicing herd immunity for a few weeks before we went to quarantine
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 6:45 pm
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:44 pm to
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Sao still doesn't get your stance. You know that asymptomatic carriers can still pass it on. Of anyone, you should be sounding a trumpet to be safe but instead you're downplaying it all even still here in April. Why?
Scruffy got sucked into the poli board. It's happened to a bunch of posters and it is interesting to see how they change. The Boat, NIH, etc. all drastically changed their posting here after becoming poli board regulars.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:44 pm to
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Louisiana isn’t testing anyone unless they are seriously ill.
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Irrelevant.

This is death per capita, not case fatality rate.



This after someone else mentioned testing for LOUISIANA. Seriously, this of all things is a brain buster to you, an MD?
Posted by Teauxler
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
3307 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:46 pm to
You keep Joe out of this !
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72198 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:54 pm to
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This after someone else mentioned testing for LOUISIANA.
In regards to the OP’s article about deaths per capita, a concept that, no matter what state is involved, is not affected by the number of asymptomatic carriers or non-fatal cases.

Knowing how many asymptomatic or non-fatal cases are out there will not decrease this particular stat.

In this situation, unlike what we should be doing, this stat only requires testing the most sick and fatal cases.

This isn’t a political opinion or downplaying of anything.

It is a little argument about statistical findings and what variables are actually needed.

In all honesty, this stat makes the entire situation seem dire.

Hell, Scruffy is taking the side here of stating that there is no stat that could sugarcoat or downplay this info from NOLA.

It is bad news period.

This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:54 pm to
Chinese virus has melted Sao’s brain

Tough to see
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37586 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:55 pm to
Because in this calculation it’s deaths/total
Population.

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36746 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:57 pm to
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I live in Vermilion Parish


Hey neighbor.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6609 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:09 pm to
What the hell did people think was going to happen? Louisiana is at the bottom of the list when it comes to health in this country. I love Louisiana and I love living here but at the end of the day we all know what type of lifestyles a lot of people living in this state go about on a daily basis.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10401 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:27 pm to
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Louisiana isn’t testing anyone unless they are seriously ill.

I tried and couldn’t get tested. Wasn’t old enough to worry bout


I love how every thread has that one guy who refutes statistics with claims that aren’t even related to what the statistic is saying.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:30 pm to
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I’d go out on a limb and say that New Orleans MSA is the unhealthiest metro area in the country with a population greater than 1M.


There that many people there?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:49 pm to
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There that many people there?


New Orleans MSA is ~1.2 million people
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