re: LGBT propaganda in the classroom

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You know damn well the point of this propaganda is not to merely inform children that these people exist.

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I don't

I don't know what the poster says

Is it just saying to not tease them? Or is it saying that if they have questions to go talk to somebody?

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Anyway, let's say it's 3 in 1000 who experience dysphoria. That means that a lot of the kids will know someone who experiences dysphoria, although that person may not be open about it. It doesn't hurt to at least have kids understand that gender dysphoria is a thing that some people experience, and to understand what it means. We don't have to make it an issue about right/wrong, we could just teach kids about the disorder so they understand it.

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I'm ok with that, except we no longer view gender dysphoria as a problem for the individual. It is now something that apparently needs to be embraced.

These people have a higher rate of suicide. Perhaps it's because they are tormented by those around them, and so I see merit in educating people on their situation. However, their suicide rates have been shown to increase further after gender related treatments and surgeries. This points to mental illness.

Therefore my point is that you wouldn't just accept someone's alcoholism. So why are we all of a sudden catering towards enabling these behaviors without looking at the deeper issues present with that person?

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Over the years I've read a few interesting articles, but disagreed with mos

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frick yea!!!

Why don't we have posters for any other abnormalities in 0.3% of the population?

It seems like there are plenty of other freaks in the world who need acceptance too.

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I'm ok with that, except we no longer view gender dysphoria as a problem for the individual. It is now something that apparently needs to be embraced.

These people have a higher rate of suicide. Perhaps it's because they are tormented by those around them, and so I see merit in educating people on their situation. However, their suicide rates have been shown to increase further after gender related treatments and surgeries. This points to mental illness.

Therefore my point is that you wouldn't just accept someone's alcoholism. So why are we all of a sudden catering towards enabling these behaviors without looking at the deeper issues present with that person?

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My take is that gender dysphoria IS a personal problem insofar as it causes the individual anxiety and damages their ability to form healthy relationships and live a happy life. If a person experiences gender dysphoria and, through consulting their medical professionals, determines that the best way to treat that dysphoria is to transition, then I support them in that decision. It isn't my place to interfere or judge because I'm simply not qualified to do so. I'm going to trust their psychological and medical team.

Transitioning and surgery are probably not appropriate for all people who experience dysphoria. I agree with that.

I'll point out that not all transgender people necessarily experience dysphoria, or at least not all of them experience dysphoria that is severe. Some transition and are happy. Some people with dysphoria never transition and find ways (through therapy) to cope with their dysphoria. For some people it's just a phase.

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Stick with sex ed, not queer ed.

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Why don't we have posters for any other abnormalities in 0.3% of the population?

It seems like there are plenty of other freaks in the world who need acceptance too.

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Because a lot of abnormalities aren't threatening to people, so people talk to their children about them. Downs syndrome, dwarfism, spina bifida, etc. As a society we're becoming better about destigmatizing mental disorders and mental illness, but we have a long way to go. It's much more acceptable to talk about depression and personality disorders than it used to be, but we could do a better job of educating kids about those.

I'm guessing that this isn't the only poster this magazine has sent out. This was one quarter, there are other quarters in the year. This quarter they chose to do something about sexuality and gender. Next quarter they'll do something else. Life goes on.

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You can argue against this until you're blue in the face but it won't change the fact that gender is a cultural construct that is distinct from biological sex, and that other cultures have alternative views on gender that don't match our culture's prevailing concept of rigid genders.

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Specifically I was talking about the etymology of the word gender. I looked it up, and that's the history.

However, I think you are confusing binary gender with gender roles as well as gender identity.

Humans exhibit sexual dimorphism, and that means there are typically large physical differences between males and females. There are also hormonal differences that generally shape male and female dispositions.

These factors have shaped the roles that males and females tended to more naturally fall into throughout history. Males are symbiotic with their female counterparts, and these roles were often further exaggerated within a family unit.

Now there is a wide range of diversity amongst the human population. Therefore not all individuals have characteristics that fit 100% into those typically represented by the quintessential male or female.

That was never a problem until the post industrial revolution when the workforce in our country began to move away from physical labor. This put women on an even playing field with men, and hence where the idea of gender roles became taboo.

Exactly, The natural order is chaos. It's cancer. It's mutations. It's outliers. It's monkeys maturbating and dolphins having gay sex.

The natural order is people doing whatever the frick they want. It's rape, murder, men moving from one partner to the next. Whoever is the strongest gets what they want.

Marriage, monogamy, sexual prudence, etc, these are all artificial constructs humans have created. And don't get me wrong, we've created them bc they are beneficial. Just like harnessing fire, burning coal, controlling air temperatures, and a million other things we've created that nature never "intended" are awesome. But nebulous sexual orientation is very much an inherent part of the human race. There's nothing oxymoronic about believing in science/evolution and also admitting some people are just naturally born with desires outside of the norm.

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Second, in my opinion, these things just plant a seed of thought that most of these kids would never have had otherwise.

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What are you talking about? I've always been a fan of two good looking women hooking up.