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Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:56 pm to High C
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First, I don't think that seventh graders are developed enough psychologically to consider such questions. Second, in my opinion, these things just plant a seed of thought that most of these kids would never have had otherwise.
Disagree.
Do you know anyone who is LGBT? It is not uncommon for LGBT to have known or suspected their status way before 6th grade. Your plant the seed comment is just ridiculous. Do you also think giving boys Barbies "turns them gay"?
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:56 pm to High C
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these things just plant a seed of thought that most of these kids would never have had otherwise.
What thought? Like "Hey, sucking another guy's dick sounds like fun, I should check it out"?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:58 pm to TigerCub
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think a poster is going to turn someone gay or make them consider it? It doesn't work that way.
Not being insulting, but are you speaking from experience? Otherwise, how do you know? I'm not saying that a poster could MAKE someone gay. I've seen a lot of lesbian activity take place in high school because of suggestion in peer groups. Experimentation, if you will.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:01 pm to Tiger Ryno
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The same crowd that denies the existence of God in the name of science and natural order will deny science and natural order in the name of their own emotions and political correctness.
This!
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:02 pm to High C
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I've seen a lot of lesbian activity take place in high school
This thread just got more interesting.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:04 pm to High C
Is that experimentation not a part of their sexual development?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:04 pm to LasVegasTiger
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I've seen a lot of lesbian activity take place in high school
Well, if that poster had anything to do with this, then print more.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:05 pm to LasVegasTiger
Not eyewitness 
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:21 pm to High C
quote:So what? Why is it a bad thing?
Not being insulting, but are you speaking from experience? Otherwise, how do you know? I'm not saying that a poster could MAKE someone gay. I've seen a lot of lesbian activity take place in high school because of suggestion in peer groups. Experimentation, if you will.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:28 pm to Hog on the Hill
Never said it was bad. Do you have a daughter?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:29 pm to Hog on the Hill
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So what? Why is it a bad thing
Kids are gullible and confused and full of hormones.
Filling their heads with this "gender identity" nonsense is irresponsible and wrong.
Look, almost everyone, at times during their teenage years, feels uncomfortable in their own skin.
This doesn't mean you are a pansexual femme-forward queergnostic fox-kin faerie-spirit lordling with dyke tendencies.
It means you are a normal fricking teenager going through the process of finding out you aren't some special fricking snowflake.
People used to start garage bands or write journals or shite like that.
Now they know that claiming they are some nonsense gender identity will get them attention because the progs and the media have spoon fed them that shite.
In the abscence of real conflict, of real hardship, they've convinced them that hurt feelings are the worst thing in the world.
And it's bullshittery.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:29 pm to Lou Pai
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That's adorable. By your definition of the natural order, should female bears let their cubs die since that's the rational view? Why do certain animals operate in groups while others don't? Obviously nature has shaped humans to look out for each other or abide by some general moral understanding that has benefited the human race in its survival/prosperity.
I'm just saying the natural order is just the way it is. It is chaos. When someone brings up "natural", I have to laugh my arse off as if animals are some bar for morality. Maybe elephants, dogs/wolves, and dolphins, but that's about it. The rest of them are assholes with no regard for any other life whatsoever. We have evolved past natural order. We now know (or at least should for some) how to treat each other and our planet at large, and we exploit the environment in order to make sure this new order continues.
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You may think the world of 1950 is old-fashioned and out-dated. I think in some ways we have progressed, but it's not an absolute concept. It's frankly irrational to think that humanity is on some infinite quest of progress and advancement in every category. That's the general trend, but not a guarantee in every facet of life. Inasmuch as we are going so far as to re-define basic grammar in basically an Orwellian fashion, I'd say that's pretty clear.
The only thing I think the 50s did better than we do today is securing a family unit. I'm sure there are others, but that's the only one on the top of my head. Society was so ridiculously divided at that point, so I like where we are now.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:30 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Make no mistake there is a war being fought in the minds of every man, woman, and child on this continent between international socialism and our sacred birthright of liberty.
Wish I had thought of this talk radio talking point as a troll.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:42 pm to High C
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Not being insulting, but are you speaking from experience? Otherwise, how do you know? I'm not saying that a poster could MAKE someone gay. I've seen a lot of lesbian activity take place in high school because of suggestion in peer groups. Experimentation, if you will.
Yes actually. Next question.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:47 pm to TigerCub
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Yes actually. Next question.
At what age did you make your determination?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:49 pm to fr33manator
Teaching them about sexual orientation and gender identity isn't going to teach them to feel entitled or like they are special snowflakes. It actually would demystify sex and gender issues and would make them just another thing they learn about in school. If kids feel like they want to experiment, who cares? If they go through a phase of experimentation before finding out who they are and what they like, then great. They've gained self-awareness and self-actualization. But I don't think it will really make a difference in terms of promoting experimentation because I think kids are already exposed to sexuality in pop culture that having Mrs. Snyder talk to them about sexual orientation won't make them suddenly crave gay sex.
Educating children about real world matters is a good thing. You guys are arguing for coddling and sheltering children, when we should be proactive in teaching them about these subjects around the same time they become sexually active on their own.
If they aren't learning about it in school, they're learning about it from friends. And I'd rather have them learn about it in a structured, mature environment in which safety and responsibility are stressed.
Seriously, what's the worst that could happen?
Educating children about real world matters is a good thing. You guys are arguing for coddling and sheltering children, when we should be proactive in teaching them about these subjects around the same time they become sexually active on their own.
If they aren't learning about it in school, they're learning about it from friends. And I'd rather have them learn about it in a structured, mature environment in which safety and responsibility are stressed.
Seriously, what's the worst that could happen?
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:54 pm to High C
quote:So if it's not bad then of what consequence is it?
Never said it was bad. Do you have a daughter?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:02 pm to High C
Looking back I knew when I was probably about 10-11 even though I may not have fully understood it at the time.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:22 pm to TigerCub
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Looking back I knew when I was probably about 10-11 even though I may not have fully understood it at the time.
Thanks for being frank. I've taught many students who, I believe, were dealing with this issue when they were 12-13. I never judged, but could see it. Homosexuality is a very different issue , to me, than convoluted ideas about gender identity. I truly believe that these are socially created issues
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