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re: LED or plasma TV?

Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:30 am to
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16905 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:30 am to
I live my panasonic plasma, but frick this is the third time its burnt out.

My old 37" Westinghouse is filling in admirably.
Posted by ddbnsb
Raised in New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
3313 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:49 am to
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But you have to take the plasma to get refilled once a year and that is a big pain in the arse. Headed to best buy next week to refill mine.


What?

I've had my plasma for about 7 years now, and have never had it "refilled". I don't believe that's even possible.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16905 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:59 am to
Looking at

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Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 11:06 am to
I bought that 4k smart 60" samsung couple weeks ago.
If they make a better tv I'd like to see it.
Badass.
Posted by Pennymoney
Member since Sep 2012
667 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 11:09 am to
Plasma beats the shite out of LED. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just falling for all the marketing hype.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31836 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 11:21 am to
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Plasma beats the shite out of LED. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just falling for all the marketing hype.






Plasmas are so overrated and you hear the same thing parroted over and over and over but better picture/deeper blacks etc.

To the OP watch several buy what you think is best. Personally I like LED having seen and owned both.

If you choose plasma though be careful. All the major manufacturers are discontinuing their plasma lines. Id be concerned about their continued support if something happens to it a year-two years down the road.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19250 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 11:22 am to
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I bought that 4k smart 60" samsung couple weeks ago. If they make a better tv I'd like to see it. Badass.
I was looking at one in Best Buy yesterday. It was a 65" for $1900, regular $3200. I told my wife, we will be getting that in the near future
This post was edited on 11/29/14 at 11:23 am
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30247 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 11:24 am to
I have a Phillips LED that I'm very satisfied with. Got a great price, and it's a great picture. Personally, I love it.

I do agree that Plasma gives a little bit better picture, but it has drawbacks that I think aren't worth it.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16905 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 11:56 am to
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Plasmas are so overrated


Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 12:01 pm to
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Plasmas are so overrated and you hear the same thing parroted over and over and over but better picture/deeper blacks etc.



It's unfair to call it "parroting" when it's true.

The cheapest model of the final generation of Panasonic plasmas (the ST60) went down to .002 fL for black. The best LEDs are 10x worse, and they try to make up for the inherently poorer native black level of LCD tech by dimming the LEDs. It is a huge difference.

The edge-lit sets dim zones typically 1/8 the height of the screen and half its width, which is complete shite due to the large rectangular brightness fluctuations it causes in dark scenes. The full-array sets causes spotlight-type blooming artifacts around areas of brightness surrounded by darkness, and they're only as good as the number of zones they have, which is never enough. Then there's the poor uniformity and flashlighting that plagues LCD sets.

Plasma doesn't have those problems. They emit light directly instead of shining light through color filters that can't close sufficiently to block it. They have better motion since they don't use sample-and-hold like LCD.

Disadvantages to plasma include being unable to get nearly as bright as LED-LCD sets (non-issue for dark room viewing), line bleed, buzzing, rainbow effect, image retention, and higher power usage and thus heat production. (Plus you gotta refill the damn things every year or two. ) People who own plasmas found the better picture quality to far outweigh these disadvantages, which only appear a very small amount of the time.

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To the OP watch several buy what you think is best. Personally I like LED having seen and owned both.


If they were both calibrated properly and viewed in a dark or at least light-controlled room, I think yours would be an uncommon preference.

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If you choose plasma though be careful. All the major manufacturers are discontinuing their plasma lines. Id be concerned about their continued support if something happens to it a year-two years down the road.


That's true for any model of TV, really. Manufacturers maintain some parts inventory for warranty repairs, but once you're out of warranty, they can charge whatever they want. A brand new TCON board can go for $400 three or four years out, which leaves you to buy untested used parts pulled from dead TVs and sold by a plethora of more or less shady vendors.

Hopefully OLED will continue dropping in price and be reasonable before my ST60 dies.
Posted by Pennymoney
Member since Sep 2012
667 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Plasmas are so overrated and you hear the same thing parroted over and over and over but better picture/deeper blacks etc.



You hear it cause it's true...
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77957 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 2:13 pm to
Would not buy Plasma due to them being completely phased out.
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 2:19 pm to
Just bought this TV. Would've gone plasma but the room it would've been in definitely wouldn't been good in regards to light

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Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 2:23 pm to
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Would not buy Plasma due to them being completely phased out.


I can't think of a single reason why that is a valid position.
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