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re: Landrieu - No removal plans beyond 4 targeted monuments

Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:16 am to
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:16 am to
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There is more racial strife today than just 5-10 years ago


Neighborhoods you wouldn't have walked in 5-10 years ago have $750k houses. And many of the old residents are still there.

Again, it is fine.

One credit to Landrieu is that he has actually taken efforts to clean up some of the blight. frick the move with the auctions was amazing. Basically said FU to shitty property holders.
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Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:21 am to
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Landrieu - No removal plans beyond 4 targeted monuments by kingbob
NOLA's actually become a hotspot for tech startups. It's no Austin, Nashville, or Boulder, but it's starting to form its own scene. Also, the new hospital corridor has created a ton of new medical jobs.




How much of that growth is due to the special nature of NOLA and its skilled work force vs the state tax credit programs that just makes it cheaper to be in NOLA?

Those programs can and will go away. When they do, it will be like Catfish Town ala NOLA.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:23 am to
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Again, it is fine.


But it could be Better. the Statue shite is ridiculous and has put the city in national spotlight and it isn't good for the city at large. It was a dumb decision, and even dumber to draw it out like it has been.

I'm in the camp that no attention is good attention. Stay out of the spotlight. Lay low. Kept to yourself and take care of your own. And the statue ordeal is the exact opposite. It's just another stupid issue that brings up old emotions on both sides. And emotional people make rash decisions.


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One credit to Landrieu is that he has actually taken efforts to clean up some of the blight. frick the move with the auctions was amazing. Basically said FU to shitty property holders.


I absolutely and totally agree and will give him credit for this. It's something that has needed to be done and I hope that he can continue on this path.

If only he would get the damn city out of national spotlight.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:24 am to
That's the positive attitude.

Only difference between NOLA and Catfish Town is when the the credits stop NOLA is still an interesting city with something to do every weekend, not just a few during the fall.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:25 am to
If the confederate protesters hadn't come down there probably wouldn't be any spotlight.

But honestly, he should have had a plan for how to handle this. Where the statues are going, a confederate section of city park, something.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 1:27 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35120 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:29 am to
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If the confederate protesters hadn't come down there probably wouldn't be any spotlight.


There shouldn't have been a push to take them down to begin with. It was a horrible decision. There would have been no protesters if the decision to take down harmless statues had not been made. The protesters on BOTH sides are imbeciles.

The National media isn't free from blame either..they stoke the flames because it makes good TV and gets good ratings. They don't care about what happens the local level. They only care about their views.

Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:31 am to
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When it was built in the 70's, New Orleans East was very suburb-ish, but Katrina converted what little was nice into a hoodrat wasteland.


The East has been a hoodrat wasteland decades before Katrina. Folks started leaving the east for Jefferson parish, north shore in the late 70's.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56475 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:43 am to
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It means he will be representing for the 2nd District when this job runs out.
Okay, I had to get in on this.

The Bitch couldn't beat Richmond if he was Jesus. In fact, former 2nd Dist. Cong. Lindy Boggs was and remains the only white candidate in US history to win a majority black district. Mitch is not going to change that.

Mitch's political career is over. Sorry for your loss.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7181 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:46 am to
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That's the positive attitude. Only difference between NOLA and Catfish Town is when the the credits stop NOLA is still an interesting city with something to do every weekend, not just a few during the fall.


I didn't push the Silicon Bayou position. The state tax credits are the major pull NOLA, not the city itself.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:49 am to
He'll get a sweet 7 figure job working for Jesse J or Rev. Al.
Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
1365 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:49 am to
You can make the argument the Jackson statue in Jackson square should come down.

Jackson was a slave owner.

Think of this demographics of NOLA; the demographics have the power to control their own city.

Just to put it into perspective, it would be like having a statue of Malcolm X in the city center of a town that's mostly white. Just doesn't 'jive'.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35120 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:52 am to
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You can make the argument the Jackson statue in Jackson square should come down


It's not a city landmark. Not a state landmark. Not even a national landmark. Jackson square is THE focal point of new Orleans on an international scale.

If there is one statue id bet my life on staying, it is Andrew Jackson in Jackson square. Not a chance in hell it comes down.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 1:53 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:55 am to
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I didn't push the Silicon Bayou position. The state tax credits are the major pull NOLA, not the city itself.




Obviously. Won't debate that at all for the startups. Just saying I wouldn't bet on all of them abandoning the city when the credits disappear.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56475 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:59 am to
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Jackson was a slave owner.
So were Washington and Jefferson, but don't give them any ideas.

shite, actually, it's too late.
Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
1365 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:59 am to
I hope you're right but I've seen this in the past. Once this has started, it will never be enough.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35120 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:02 am to
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shite, actually, it's too late.


You thought the statues were triggers? How about those massive faces of slave owners carved into the side of a mountain? Or our currency?

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:02 am to
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You can make the argument the Jackson statue in Jackson square should come down.

Jackson was a slave owner.



Jackson isn't most famous for his views on slavery or the protection of the practice.

Not so true for Lee or Davis.


I do find it interesting that yall can't separate Confederate statues from salve owning statues.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 2:04 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35120 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:03 am to
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hope you're right but I've seen this in the past. Once this has started, it will never be enough.


I hope so too. I just see Jackson square as too big to touch. I mean shite. Id argue it's the most well known statue in our state.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56475 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:08 am to
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Jackson isn't most famous for his views on slavery or the protection of the practice.

\Not so true for Lee or Davis.
You're right. Lee did have outspoken views on slavery:

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"In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages." R.E. Lee

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"So far from engaging in a war to perpetuate slavery, I am rejoiced that Slavery is abolished. I believe it will be greatly for the interest of the South. So fully am I satisfied of this that I would have cheerfully lost all that I have lost by the war, and have suffered all that I have suffered to have this object attained." R.E. Lee
What a monster.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:11 am to
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What a monster.



Almost makes him even for killing Americans...almost
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 2:12 am
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