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re: La. priest arrested on 500 counts of possession of child porn

Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:07 pm to
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I know it's been going on for centuries. I'm asking why.


Probably the same reason teachers bang their students.
Posted by The Last Coco
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:07 pm to
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I can't wrap my head around the correlation between Catholicism and pedophelia.

Religious man blows up building. Safe bet he's a Muslim
Religious man molests children. Safe bet he's a Catholic. What gives here?


The priests make the headlines but it's an issue in all Christian denominations. Ministers across the board have been arrested for pedophilia.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:08 pm to
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Let get married...to a woman. Woman have pussy. Will frick man. Make man smile.
You Apache or Navaho?
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:08 pm to
What people in the Church did to cover up the scandal was horrible. And the ones that continue to do so can go to hell, quite literally.

But the statistics don't back up the claim that a priest has a higher chance of being a pedophile. It's actually the same percentage as married men.

That said, the number should be zero for priests because of what they stand for. They aren't supposed to be your average man.

I will add that this scandal doesn't make me lose my faith in the Church. The percentage of abusers was a lower percentage than the percentage of the twelve apostles that betrayed Jesus. And a betrayal of God is sin. Child abuse and child porn is a sin, a betrayal of God.

I will also add that when any small church non-Catholic clergy man abuses a child, it isn't a big story because the church closes, and that's that. The mere size of the Catholic Church as an institution makes the pedophilia more known.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 2:11 pm
Posted by uway
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:08 pm to
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Religious man molests children. Safe bet he's a Catholic. What gives here


Sure about that?
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:08 pm to
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You Apache or Navaho?

Slapaho
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:09 pm to
further proof that your kids are safer in a Target restroom than the church
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:10 pm to
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I will add that this scandal doesn't make me lose my faith in the Church. The percentage of abusers was a lower percentage than the percentage of the twelve apostles that betrayed Jesus. And a betrayal of God is sin. Child abuse and child porn is a sin, a betrayal of God


That's a rationalization only a religious man would come to.
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:12 pm to
If that's what he chooses to do, then who am I to judge?

But seriously, from the liberal mind set, why is it wrong? Because there are laws against it? What if we changed to laws to make it ok? Is it fine then?
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:12 pm to
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That's a rationalization only a religious man would come to.


It's a Church for sinners, not a Church for perfect people. Man is broken. And we see that every day.

The men who understand the priesthood are some of the best men I've ever met. It's a shame that there are men who take on the role of a priest and throw it away.

But like every job, you have people in it for the wrong reasons. Teachers, cops, etc. Some of the best people you will ever meet, and some of the worst.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:13 pm to
Actually Protestant minister pedophilia happens at a higher rate but don't let that get in the way of your notion.

I hope this guy rots fwiw
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:14 pm to
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Religious man molests children. Safe bet he's a Catholic.
Not really.
Where they messed up as a whole was all the cover ups. fricking sick.
Posted by Thorny
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:15 pm to
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Well, there's better than a 1 in 10 chance that any priest you know is fricking little boys and girls so this shouldn't be surprising. What's surprising is that it wasn't covered up by the church.


According to the most comprehensive study on the matter, "(T)he dioceses had been able to identify 6,700 unique accusations against 4,392 clergy over that period in the USA, which is about 4% of all 109,694 ordained clergy i.e. priests or deacons or members of religious orders, active in the USA during the time covered by the study.[2]"
Wikipedia article on John Jay report.

So your 1 in 10 is actually about 1 in 25.

Those numbers are quite close to the numbers of teachers who are accused of similar misconduct over the span of their careers.

The very real crimes were the bishops who knew about it and hid it, which didn't happen in this case.

Cheers.
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:15 pm to
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You Apache or Navaho?

Same tribe of Pocahontas (Elizabeth Warren): From Great Cracker Nation.
Posted by say when
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:16 pm to
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I know it's been going on for centuries. I'm asking why.


Because if you are a fox, where else would you want to be but in the hen house.

Easy picking and everyone around you is doing it so you hardly even have to hide.



Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:16 pm to
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It's a Church for sinners, not a Church for perfect people. Man is broken. And we see that every day.


Right. I've never been to church, I wouldn't know.

I would however, venture to guess that the majority of patrons in church are not child molesters or 'sinning' in such a despicable manner.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:17 pm to
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Not really.
Where they messed up as a whole was all the cover ups. fricking sick.


Yup. The cover-ups were the downfall. And there were people who wanted to protect the Church. But hiding truth to defend the Church is just horrible, and not defending the Church at all. You have to trust that God will protect his own Church. The scandal is huge black eye on the Church. No doubt.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 2:18 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:17 pm to
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Protestant minister pedophilia happens at a higher rate

occurs at a higher rate? or is exposed at a higher rate? I would think it would be easier to expose the protestant because he doesn't have the mafia, I mean the Catholic church to help shield him
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:18 pm to
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And there were people who wanted to protect the Church.

very Penn Statish of them
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:19 pm to
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I would however, venture to guess that the majority of patrons in church are not child molesters or 'sinning' in such a despicable manner.


I don't like to look at sin like that. People are tempted in different ways and at different levels.
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