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re: La. priest arrested on 500 counts of possession of child porn
Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:33 pm to 62Tigerfan
Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:33 pm to 62Tigerfan
Where is the responsibility in the church? Who allowed this man to be a priest? To have full access to children?
Posted on 7/27/16 at 6:03 pm to dnm3305
Unless Joe Paterno rises up from his dirt nap and becomes pope, the days of the Catholic church sweeping this disgusting behavior under the rug are over.
The Catholic church knows that it's not getting the benefit of the doubt in these cases in the US ever again, and it should not.
I would be surprised if they have truly reigned in their problem with missionary priest perverts in third world countries, but we're past the point of Father Perv getting a pass for having a "kid problem."
The Catholic church knows that it's not getting the benefit of the doubt in these cases in the US ever again, and it should not.
I would be surprised if they have truly reigned in their problem with missionary priest perverts in third world countries, but we're past the point of Father Perv getting a pass for having a "kid problem."
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:03 pm to tke857
What got him caught was the 12gallons of milk and tons of cookies found under his bed....
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:31 pm to Pepperidge
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Actually Protestants pastors have molested more than the Catholic Church has ever...and yet their are fewer protestants than Catholics...not that it makes things better...because I believe their is a special place in hell for pedophiles and molesters It's just that the Catholic Diocese is richer and an easier target for the media...
We don't know that more protestant pastors are pedophiles because accurate data would be impossible to get, the catholic church has made sure of that. Also point us to some examples of where the Protestant churches have organized cover up of pedophile pastor that extended form the highest levels of the church on down.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:34 pm to tke857
Catholics who are perturbed by this (seeming) epidemic:
You are more than welcome to the other Holy, Apostolic, Catholic Church. We are much the same, although our liturgies are in English (or Greek or Russian), and we have a wee bit more icons than y'all do. Our parish priests are mostly married men, too, so no worries about junior being an altar boy.
The Ancient Faith Welcomes You
You are more than welcome to the other Holy, Apostolic, Catholic Church. We are much the same, although our liturgies are in English (or Greek or Russian), and we have a wee bit more icons than y'all do. Our parish priests are mostly married men, too, so no worries about junior being an altar boy.
The Ancient Faith Welcomes You
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:46 pm to CatsGoneWild
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There are a bunch of jobs dealing with kids, but it doesn't make them want to do stuff with them. The urge for affection would be calmed down a lot if they were married. The real thing is better than imagining
I keep reading "if only the priest were allowed to marry they wouldn't do this" and it drives me insane. These people are pedophiles that prey on children, it is that simple. Pedophiles know at a young age that they have an attraction to young children, those that are academically inclined go to college and become teachers and coaches, those without the book smarts get jobs as janitors at schools. Some do get married and live outwardly normal lives, they hide in plain site while getting access to children by being scout leaders and coaches. They design their careers and lives to be in contact with children. The priesthood was almost designed to be a haven for pedophiles, access to children, power and influence over their lives, and until recent history the comfort that no one would every suspect them of such a thing, and probably not believe the accuser if they were. Most of what I have written here is just repeating what a detective that does child protective services work told me. I do agree with the poster that said prohibiting priests from marrying reduces the selection pool down to those that are pedophiles or homosexuals.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:50 pm to tke857
Ahh Catholic priests....The didndunuffin's of the white ppl
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:59 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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La. priest arrested on 500 counts of possession of child porn I can't wrap my head around the correlation between Catholicism and pedophelia.
I'd say it has something to do with the pervasive way these priests grow up and mature. Sexuality is part of human growth. Most of them never mature past junior high in that area. Catholics need to reexamine that policy. It is clear it isn't godly or natural and actually leads to hurtful consequences in a lot of cases.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:16 pm to tke857
I guess we won't get any serious attention on this shite until it becomes a racial headline issue. And that would be a hell of an easy task.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:24 pm to The Last Coco
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The priests make the headlines but it's an issue in all Christian denominations. Ministers across the board have been arrested for pedophilia.
True. It's been far beyond the church. Regular joes are being busted for just as much. Louisiana is a hotbed.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:24 pm to OldSouth
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Protestant preachers are just as likely to be arrested for things like this. You just don't hear about it.
Orly?
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:05 pm to dagrippa
I find it interesting that the Catholic church get's targeted so much for this. Statistically as the largest denomination in the world, we only represent 1/12 cases of clergy sex abuse.
I think a lot of the targeting comes out of a rather strong general anti-catholic sentiment in the west. I think that we maintain a celibate priesthood, and that there are parts of our church which by nature are less transparent then others makes us an easy target.
The priests that do these things are definitely individuals with a problem and should definitely be defrocked and subject to the law in whatever country they are in. Unfortunately, predatory people are more likely to be attracted to positions of relative power which is why the phenomena of clergy sex abuse is on the scale it is.
What people really need to remember is:
There are 1,229,000,000 Catholics in the world
of which 414,313 are priests (as of 2012)
less then 3000 priests have been accused/charge with abuse
So essentially they are judging a very large group of people by 0.02304% of the population of that group.
Given that about 4 percent of the population is believed to have pedophilic urges The fact that only 0.032% of priests have been involved in the scandal is a testament to the virtue of the rest of the priesthood.
(It should be noted that as the r accusations/charges have fallen over a number of decades, the number of priests that have died and new priests that have been ordained since the start of the period could bring the percentage down to about 0.01, but I simply don't have the numbers to prove that)
I think a lot of the targeting comes out of a rather strong general anti-catholic sentiment in the west. I think that we maintain a celibate priesthood, and that there are parts of our church which by nature are less transparent then others makes us an easy target.
The priests that do these things are definitely individuals with a problem and should definitely be defrocked and subject to the law in whatever country they are in. Unfortunately, predatory people are more likely to be attracted to positions of relative power which is why the phenomena of clergy sex abuse is on the scale it is.
What people really need to remember is:
There are 1,229,000,000 Catholics in the world
of which 414,313 are priests (as of 2012)
less then 3000 priests have been accused/charge with abuse
So essentially they are judging a very large group of people by 0.02304% of the population of that group.
Given that about 4 percent of the population is believed to have pedophilic urges The fact that only 0.032% of priests have been involved in the scandal is a testament to the virtue of the rest of the priesthood.
(It should be noted that as the r accusations/charges have fallen over a number of decades, the number of priests that have died and new priests that have been ordained since the start of the period could bring the percentage down to about 0.01, but I simply don't have the numbers to prove that)
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:09 pm to Moustache
Please shut the frick up. Who cares who was targeted more? As long as they take these sick fricks and lock them up forever then all is good.
And maybe it has something to do with a huge fricking cover up the church tried to pull and knowing of abuse and not reporting it or when when someone's name started ringing instead of getting rid of the frick they just moved them to a different parish and swept it under the rug. frick the Catholic Church for all that.
And maybe it has something to do with a huge fricking cover up the church tried to pull and knowing of abuse and not reporting it or when when someone's name started ringing instead of getting rid of the frick they just moved them to a different parish and swept it under the rug. frick the Catholic Church for all that.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:23 am to AUbagman
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I'd say it has something to do with the pervasive way these priests grow up and mature. Sexuality is part of human growth. Most of them never mature past junior high in that area. Catholics need to reexamine that policy. It is clear it isn't godly or natural and actually leads to hurtful consequences in a lot of cases.
Your observation is well stated. Not only that, but Roman Catholic Scriptures have a word or two to say about it. Some which seem particularly damning respecting forbidding marriage and rather prosaic in discussing one of marriage's functions witlhin human sexuality.
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[New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)]
1 Timothy 4:1-6: Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will renounce the faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the hypocrisy of liars whose consciences are seared with a hot iron. They forbid marriage and demand abstinence from foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, provided it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by God’s word and by prayer. If you put these instructions before the brothers and sisters, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound teaching that you have followed. Have nothing to do with profane myths and old wives’ tales.
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1 Corinthians 1,2: Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is well for a man not to touch a woman.” But because of cases of sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
[Disclaimer] I know TD does not allow discussion of religion. However, these Roman Catholic Church endorsed verses of Holy Scripture are contextually pertinent to the criminal and psychological problem under discussion in this thread.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 6:31 am to OldSouth
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Protestant preachers are just as likely to be arrested for things like this. You just don't hear about it.
How do you know?
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:22 am to tke857
Reason 1,000 why North La is better than South La
No Catholic perverts up north
No Catholic perverts up north
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:28 am to tke857
I've been Catholic my entire life and been molested zero times.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:43 am to Moustache
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The fact that only 0.032% of priests have been involved in the scandal is a testament to the virtue of the rest of the priesthood.
(It should be noted that as the r accusations/charges have fallen over a number of decades, the number of priests that have died and new priests that have been ordained since the start of the period could bring the percentage down to about 0.01, but I simply don't have the numbers to prove that)
I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but...
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The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) commissioned the John Jay College of Criminal Justice to conduct a comprehensive study based on surveys completed by the Roman Catholic dioceses in the United States. The product of the study, titled the John Jay Report indicated that some 11,000 allegations had been made against 4,392 priests in the USA. This number constituted approximately 4% of the priests who had served during the period covered by the survey (1950–2002).
That is from the Catholic Church in the US. 4% is way, way more than the number number of accused sex offenders in the general public.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:44 am to tke857
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500 counts
500 hits to the head with a baseball bat.
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