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Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:16 pm to SSpaniel
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Is it THAT they quarantined her or is it how they went about it? Didn't they basically stop her at the airport and lock her in a room until they could transfer her to a tent outside of a hospital?
I believe this was the case. According to her, she was stopped at the airport and held in a room. Her temperature was normal. They continued to hold her despite no temp or any symptoms. After a few hours they took her temperature again. This time it came back as 101 which is a cause for concern. She said it was b/c she was 'upset and flushed' and told them to take her temp orally. They didn't. Instead they took her to a hospital where her temp was taken orally and came back normal. She showed no signs of anything and they continued to hold her in a tent outside the hospital for three days with no shower.
her version of the events
All medical personnel in her situation are supposed to monitor themselves. Once they detect a fever, they have time to alert public officials before they become contagious.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:18 pm to Winkface
I don't care if she doesn't have it and is no danger at all, I hope she is forced into quarantine because she comes off as a self-righteous bitch. It would be even better if she actually got it
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:24 pm to LSUGrrrl
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I can't believe the board that is so cynical of LE conducting illegal search & seizures, illegal stops, house raids, etc (I am, too, BTW) is cool with a state official having the power to hold you against your will with no legal recourse.
You have to understand that they could be the subject of an illegal search, but none of them would ever go to Africa. So they think she brought this on herself, and it could never happen to them
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:26 pm to Winkface
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When the frick did that happen???????
When did what happen? Nina Pham and the Vinson chick contracting the virus after caring for Eric Duncan? Earlier this month...
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:27 pm to JG77056
They are doctors?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:29 pm to ashy larry
See, rectal was the only way to go, there.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:30 pm to Mung
They might want to go hunt in Africa 
The same precedent would be used then expanded for other purposes.
The same precedent would be used then expanded for other purposes.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:30 pm to Winkface
What are they? I haven't studied their exact med school credentials but I do know they were health care workers. If you're at the point where you're nit picking between me calling them doctors and them actually being nurses, then you've already lost the argument.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:33 pm to JG77056
They are nurses. They don't have med school credentials. Get your facts straight. That's the whole point of the argument anyway. Facts. Facts not fear.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:38 pm to LSUGrrrl
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LSUGrrrl
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Yeah. I think there should be a requirement to meet a high legal standard before they are able to hold someone against their will for 21 days. I hope this does go to court and both sides present evidence so that a judge can determine whether such a threshold has been met. Giving state officials the power for a 21 day hold without due process makes me very uncomfortable.
I can't believe the board that is so cynical of LE conducting illegal search & seizures, illegal stops, house raids, etc (I am, too, BTW) is cool with a state official having the power to hold you against your will with no legal recourse.
GOLF CLAP!!!!
Excellent Post. Al the lemmings posting in support of this illegal restraint need to be called out in the next thread where we discuss personal liberties.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:39 pm to Winkface
Oooohhhhhh, they are nurses, not doctors. That changes everything. Nurses are basically Down's Syndrome patients who have to have the doctors tie their shoes for them. Zero training given to them, especially those working the Ebola ward. They probably just showed up to work, saw a guy in a big plastic bubble and decided to have a pillow fight on top of his hospital bed, got thirsty and polished off the rest of his Sprite.
Or do you think that maybe, somehow, even the experts at dealing with Ebola don't know everything about it yet?
Or do you think that maybe, somehow, even the experts at dealing with Ebola don't know everything about it yet?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:40 pm to ashy larry
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I believe this was the case. According to her, she was stopped at the airport and held in a room. Her temperature was normal. They continued to hold her despite no temp or any symptoms. After a few hours they took her temperature again. This time it came back as 101 which is a cause for concern. She said it was b/c she was 'upset and flushed' and told them to take her temp orally. They didn't. Instead they took her to a hospital where her temp was taken orally and came back normal. She showed no signs of anything and they continued to hold her in a tent outside the hospital for three days with no shower.
her version of the events
All medical personnel in her situation are supposed to monitor themselves. Once they detect a fever, they have time to alert public officials before they become contagious.
She should sue the hell out of everyone involved. I would find in her favor.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:41 pm to Broke
simple solution.
She wants to run around on the loose, treat her like you would a rabid dog: Shoot the bitch and put her down.
She wants to run around on the loose, treat her like you would a rabid dog: Shoot the bitch and put her down.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:44 pm to JG77056
Go look at the timeline of thomas eric duncan and see all the people that were around him (and caring for him) without getting sick. You don't start sneezing blood walking down the aisles of albertsons unless you've been sick for a while. Duncan had to be taken to the hospital. The paramedics didn't catch anything. The people staying with him before that aren't sick despite being with him in a small apartment for a couple days after his fever started. He was in the hospital for a few days bleeding, with uncontrollable diarrhea and projectile vomiting while the staff wasn't wearing the proper gear. Evan then only 2 of the nurses got sick. They both treated him before the hospital staff began wearing the correct safety equipment/gear.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:50 pm to JG77056
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Posted by JG77056
Oooohhhhhh, they are nurses, not doctors. That changes everything. Nurses are basically Down's Syndrome patients who have to have the doctors tie their shoes for them. Zero training given to them, especially those working the Ebola ward. They probably just showed up to work, saw a guy in a big plastic bubble and decided to have a pillow fight on top of his hospital bed, got thirsty and polished off the rest of his Sprite.
Or do you think that maybe, somehow, even the experts at dealing with Ebola don't know everything about it yet?
I'm with you man. I'm thinking 70% of the people in this thread have slim to none experience dealing with critical incidents.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:52 pm to JG77056
quote:They know how they got it. By either dealing with the patient's vomit, diarrhea, dialysis or intubation.
Or do you think that maybe, somehow, even the experts at dealing with Ebola don't know everything about it yet?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:56 pm to ashy larry
Not everybody who is around someone with a virus gets infected by it. I don't care about the people that didn't get it, I care about the people that got it and how not to have other people get it. This expert narrative of the virus that you're trying to write also includes an ending with a 90% mortality rate, but of the 5 cases reported in the U.S., 4 have survived. I know it's a small sample size, but the next 44 have to die for that to be accurate.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:58 pm to JG77056
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I don't care about the people that didn't get it, I care about the people that got it and how not to have other people get it.
you have no understanding of epidemiology obviously. In order to learn how not to have other people get it you have to care and study the people that didn't get it. quote:what? No. It's 50% in Africa.
90% mortality rate
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:00 pm to Broke
Seems she could be charged with murder or attempted if she knowingly was breaking the quarantine, was infected herself, and infected others
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